I have no problem with them using nuclear technology to fuel a plant. I have a problem with nuclear grade plutonium being detonated in New York City, and millions of people dying. I don't care if anyone wants to live like us or not, just as long as they stop trying to kill us...

 

I am sticking to the topic. You called me out. You brought in God and seemingly tried to say that killing 100,000,000 is His will now. I explained. I DO NOT SUPPORT ATTACKING IRAN.

YET!! ( which I think you missed earlier)

And your original question to me asking me if I bothered to read anything else was kind of insulting in itself, don't you think?

 

Great thread Hersh!



You always know how to get a topic going!

 

Show me the button baby. show me the button. 100 million muslims for my 5 year old any day.

 

Dang someone busted out the Mighty Whitey dig....

that was harsh

 

Yes I invoked the name of God. But I never said that this nation was God protected, or God affiliated in any way, shape, or form. I fail to see how you interrpeted that as meaning that I think God wants us to kill them, or that I can read proverbs and see the future. That was way off topic. That was to prove a point that in WAR, of any kind, innocents die. It's the essence of war. Kill more of them before they kill you. War is not pretty. It is not tame. It's not nicey-nicey neat like some people tend to think. Bad things happen in war. Innoncents die along side soldiers. If I have to kill a million of them to protect this country, it's values, and my family, then so be it. While in some small way I agree that country may not be able to support a war yet, I think it's something that we need to do. People have led the high life over here, and forgot what it is to struggle just to live, instead of making payments for a $50,000 car.

You said you don't support attacking 'yet'? So do you mean that the country is not ready for another war, or that you don't believe that this is the correct time? That's the key point to our whole debate. I say we attack as soon as possible. Small analogy: If you're a cop, you don't wait until the perp grabs a weapon, you put him down before he can. I fear that if they attain nuclear capability, we will feel the effects. I'm not even saying that the govn't of Iran is or could be responsible, but they harbor and support terrorists.


And yeah, I guess I kinda' did call you out, but it lead to a good debate, it's nothing personal, no insult was intended. He!!, I don't know you well enough to insult you.

BTW- I really have no clue about this 'Mightey Whitey' character, and ask that you refrain from associating that name with me, b/c appearantly he's bad news. I will live or die by my own merits.

 

Agreed! I love debate. I live for it sometimes too.

Agreed! No more Mighty Whitey digs. (But if you say you're KJV only...well...nevermind.)

 

Sorry.

(But I was wondering for a minute.)

 

It's kinda like 1938;

*Germany is arming itself
*the rest of Europe lets them do it
*the League of Nations is inept
*the US doesn't want to get involved
then...bang, Poland gets attacked...the above still applies.


I say YES.

MR

 

'Shock and Awe' never happened. Not as it was planned anyway. They had 1 BN picked out for total, and I mean TOTAL destruction with leaflets being dropped the next day to the surrounding units to give up or suffer the same fate. As you know we opened up with cruise missiles and air strikes.


I'm not completely settled on the Iran. On one hand we can't let them continue to go down the path their taking unless we're just ready to pack it in and head for the history books. OTOH as soon as the first bomb smacks their soil gas prices will go through the roof...even more than they are now.

If we do go in I don't want to see this 'strategic' crap. Warfare is supposed to be going in, killing everyone and breaking everything in your way. "Hearts and minds' is BS. If you have them by the short'n'curlies their hearts and minds will follow you wherever you want them to go.

 

Exactly…

Terrorist are kicking are @ss, so to speak, today because many in America have some deluded concept of “moral integrity”.

In other words it’s not a morally good thing to kill innocent women and children. To a big point I agree, I absolutely agree it’s morally corrupt to kill any innocent person when unprovoked.

However, with that said, it is NOT morally corrupt if innocent people are killed in a battle field. Terrorist live in countries that have thousands of innocent people. The vast majority of these innocent people know, or should know, America will not put up with any country that supports terrorist.

Therefore, any country that supports terrorist, such as Iran, is a battle field. That being the case anyone staying in the battle field could die, innocent or not, it doesn’t matter and it is not morally corrupt if those innocent people get killed during a battle.

America is the battle field for terrorist. To date they have killed well over 3,000 INNOCENT Americans who were in the terrorist battle field of America so while I would sincerely be sadden to see anyone innocent killed in another country I really do NOT give a crap if some moron thinks its morally corrupt to kill innocent people who FAIL to listen, who FAIL to act, and who FAIL to change their way of thinking to possibly prevent their very death.

So when you get right down to it even if we leveled Iran completely there wouldn’t be to many innocent people who died, other then some children, because other then the children ALL the adults had, or have, a chance to save their innocent life now…


This would be my slogan if I were President:

"Act now my friends in the Middle East or prepare yourselves for death…”

 

Do you think if it happens it will be with the U N vote?
The U S is spreading pretty thin. How does Bush offer tax cuts and spend a billion a day on war?

 

It's very simple really...

CUT spending on everything but the military...

 

Well we sure hells wouldnt want to cut the military if we plan on keeping a world power status. I guess Clinton would lead you to think different tho...

 

Yep, if theres goin to be a fight and no way around it, then be sure to be the first to throw a punch and stop it.

Now, which red button was it?