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From: In the fast lane from LA to Tokyo...
Ah, 88racing - I'm going to post a "wait a minute" here. According to everything I've seen PHP post, they are NOT upgrading any existing pre-2004 Edge units until they get the cable problem resolved. They are continuing to support pre-2004 Gryphons.
It may seem wrong not to upgrade an Edge if the user says he has a good cable, but, what if they DO upgrade it and then discover there's a "cable fault"? I think the "hard" cutoff until the cable issue is resolved makes the most sense.
So, if you have a Gryphon already, you're golden. If you have a pre-2004 Edge and are having problems, contact Edge. If you have a pre-2004 Edge and want to upgrade to a Gryphon, stand by. If Edge works out the cable problem, you'll be able to do it. If you can't wait, look into getting an X3.
- Jack
It may seem wrong not to upgrade an Edge if the user says he has a good cable, but, what if they DO upgrade it and then discover there's a "cable fault"? I think the "hard" cutoff until the cable issue is resolved makes the most sense.
So, if you have a Gryphon already, you're golden. If you have a pre-2004 Edge and are having problems, contact Edge. If you have a pre-2004 Edge and want to upgrade to a Gryphon, stand by. If Edge works out the cable problem, you'll be able to do it. If you can't wait, look into getting an X3.
- Jack
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From: I AM Canadian!
Not to add fuel to the fire or anything, but the Scan Gauge acually looks like a great product.
From what I've read on it last night, it looks to have all the capabilities you'd possibly want to display along with a compact size.
This looks to be a great addition to all X3 owners out there that want to display the trucks data in real time.
From what I've read on it last night, it looks to have all the capabilities you'd possibly want to display along with a compact size.
This looks to be a great addition to all X3 owners out there that want to display the trucks data in real time.
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From: Carlyle, IL
Not to add fuel to the fire or anything, but the Scan Gauge acually looks like a great product.
From what I've read on it last night, it looks to have all the capabilities you'd possibly want to display along with a compact size.
This looks to be a great addition to all X3 owners out there that want to display the trucks data in real time.
From what I've read on it last night, it looks to have all the capabilities you'd possibly want to display along with a compact size.
This looks to be a great addition to all X3 owners out there that want to display the trucks data in real time.
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From: In the fast lane from LA to Tokyo...
Livewire is huge compared to the edge. The mounting options are nothing compared to the edge pod.
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From: Cedar Falls, Iowa
dont have my edge in the pod anyways.... gets in the way of the defrost. how big is the livewire? and about the scangauge... im nost sure if i could read it or not... looks really short and small with long spread out numbers...
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88, I was startin to lean a little towards that way too, seems like its our only option for a dash mounted, easy to read display and still have custom tunes..
Whats everyone think? Livewire with custom tunes? Good deal?
And btw, is it just me, because whenever I go to PHP's website and try to click on the Xcal3 link, its actually not a link, the mouse just passes over it, while everything else on that page is a link to more info on the product...strangeee
Whats everyone think? Livewire with custom tunes? Good deal?
And btw, is it just me, because whenever I go to PHP's website and try to click on the Xcal3 link, its actually not a link, the mouse just passes over it, while everything else on that page is a link to more info on the product...strangeee
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From: Texas
Well looks like I am going to have to wait a little while longer to get the Gryphon oh well I Guess if I waited a while already I can wait a little while longer especially if the product is as good as I read.
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From: In the fast lane from LA to Tokyo...
From my research the lw's mounting options were not appealing to me. Suction cup to the windshield or a screw in pedlestool mount to the dash. No one could provide me with dimensions and from every picture I saw it looked big. It does have some cool features like up to 6 pids displayed at a time where as gryphon/edge/scangauge are only up to 4 pids. Also has a shift light but why do you need you need one in an automatic?
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From: missing Texas...
what if you're manually shifting when you race but using it as a normal automatic for normal driving