What's wrong with you lately? Are you becoming a hippy?

 

Not at all, just tired of the same bull**** over and over again.

The fact that where i live i am surrounded by hippies actually pushes me farther and farther to the right. Day by day. Sometimes i just want to eliminate them.

Say, you wanna come on over to Cali and try out your new guns? We can do some serious "target practice."

 

Usually coming from the same person too!!!

Kevin

 

I'm down.

Don't kid yourself. We wouldn't be so lucky to only have one person putting out their tuner.

 

Sorry been busy with no time to add details.

I actually feel that Mikes tunes have MUCH better performance especially at WOT and when on the freeway. That being said whatever he does in the tune impacts my truck at elevation causing driveability issues. I am in the mountains almost every week so this is an issue for me but may not be in your case.

VMP tunes really work well when starting from a stop but really do not have anywhere near the acceleration that Mike's provide once traveling above 2000-2500 rpm's. Also still have the dreaded "pause" when trying to get truck to go WOT.

On the plus side NO elevation issues with the VMP tunes.

Overall, I feel you will get the best performance from Mike.

My .02

 

Oh boy not this again.

Will someone please just get both tunes and have each one dyno tested for the sake of everyone on this site?

Come on I know there is someone out there with $500 burning a hole in their pocket!

Oh and if someone does this make sure it's someone that already has a Troyer tune so the test results don't take so long....

 

I have never said that only one tuner would be good. You, on the other hand have been pushing one tuner over any others. All three of the major tuners here have done excellent work but each one is different. People can ask for an opinion but we don't need to bash someone's opinion. Hopefully people understand that there are opinions posted on this forum and need to do their own research on what is best for them.

I still have not seen ANY data comparing tunes from the different tuners. So far there has been nothing but OPINIONS on this subject. Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one and they all stink.

Kevin

 

Sounds like you just volunteered!!

Kevin

 

I don't have either tune........+ no burning hole in my pocket since I just bought my wheels and tires.

 

I've never said that VMP is the best and the rest suck, na na na. I always recommend VMP Tuning because it's my preference. Just like countless other members push their preference. There was a time when you pushed TP just like Phil and Jpdadeo. I've mentioned the other options quite frequently in my posts. As far as bashing anyone's opinion; who, where and when?

I haven't either. Although, most of the people who have tunes from different tuners, usually don't have access to a dyno. A few have made comments on what they thought though. A few thought Justin's were better, a few thought Mike's were better. I agree completely and I've said it countless other times. Justin, Mike, and Bill are ALL great tuners and you can't go wrong either either one.

 

Find the post where I "pushed" TP. I have stated success with Troyer but never pushed Troyer on anyone. I have stated my opinion about Troyer and what my experiences have been.

You are just like Phil and Jpdadeo, except with VMP, so I guess the pot is calling the kettle black??? You are doing the exact same thing as Phil and Jpdadeo but don't see it that way. You just don't see yourself as a "pusher" of VMP tunes. I guess "bash" is a poor choice of words on my part but you just had to argue with what Neal had to say.

Unless somebody has actual facts then all that is posted on this particular thread then it is all OPINION!

By the way, how is your own F150 running????

Kevin

 

i have had tp and vmp. the vmp tunes are still in.

 

is pusher slang for "salesman"?i recommend what i have first hand experience with-tp-128k miles- not a problem on 87 tow,perf,93tow, 93 perf tunes-pk

 

Wait a second though, I never said anything about Phil or Jpdadeo other than they recommend Troyer like I recommend VMP. We can go round and round all day with this. As far as disagreeing with Neal ... Uh .. What !? I actually said I agreed with him in my first sentence. And just to put some more salt in the burn ... This is a little snip of what I did say earlier in response to Neal before you decided to get your panties in a bunch over, uh, nothing.



My F150 is running pretty good. The new owner doesn't take care of it though. My F250 is running great though.

I guess some people don't understand.

 

1. You brought up Phil and JPdadeo first. 2. You did not find the thread where I "pushed" Troyer.

And you still don't get how you are doing the same things you accuse me, JP, or Phil about. Don't quite see it do you? You can also see by my post count compared to yours that I don't quite give my opinion as much as you do! Talk about your own panties getting in a bunch!

Kevin