I took a 30 month note, and I got in the truck right.

If the 3/36 expires in that time, then I am ahead. At this rate, it will expire by February or March.

I do not even want to go without transportation. I have already used a few days in rental costs. I am certain, if anything does fail, the rental coverage alone will offset the cost of, if not pay for the ESP.

Even though I can put a slave cylinder in my truck in 30 min., I still do not want to pay for the fluid, much less the part. I would prefer to save my money for an Allen supercharger.

You are all entitled to your own opinions. I am trying to consider threads like: "Piston slap out of warranty" and "transmission clunk out of gear". This way, I have plenty of time to duplicate the problem. If the countershaft falls out, it is pretty hard to say "NPF".

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'98 4.6 5-sp F-150
We've come for your Tundra.

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Well said it's basically an insurance policy.
In fact in most cases (don't know about Ford) another comapny invests the money and teh returns go to the stockholders just like any insurance company.

 

In fact some insurance companies are offering extended warranties now due to thier high profitability.

 

But if you're financing for 30 months, how would an ESP benefit you during this period, when you're already covered by the basic 3/36 warranty (I assume your're still within your mileage/warranty period)? You automatically get roadside assistance, etc. Raoul, you're the Gene Simmons of this board!

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'98 F150 XL Regular Cab, LWB, 4.2L V6, 5 Spd, 3.55 LS, Rhino Lining, factory heavy duty suspension, 3" Gibson Swept Side Cat Back, K&N filter, Oxford White minus the two tone garbage. BIG TIME FoMoCo p/u fan, not some fair weather hammerhead.



[This message has been edited by Ford man (edited 12-03-1999).]

 

does a box of rocks qualify?

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97 f150 XL, white, with plain jane look, (going for the street sleeper look)
full airbox mods, K&N
sway bar and 2/4 drop next

 

For around the cost of a 5 year/75K ESP, you can buy a fairly decent "beater" car and a AAA membership. Therefore, no rental expenses and roadside assistance is taken care of.

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'98 F150 XL Regular Cab, LWB, 4.2L V6, 5 Spd, 3.55 LS, Rhino Lining, factory heavy duty suspension, 3" Gibson Swept Side Cat Back, K&N filter, Oxford White minus the two tone garbage. BIG TIME FoMoCo p/u fan, not some fair weather hammerhead.

 

Fordman ... why don't you tell us what you really think. Seriously I worked for an ESP company and agree that they are not consumer cost efficient. 20 years ago I used to buy the ESP's, after 3 of them I realized that I was losing money and havent bought any since and only once in 5 trucks/cars purchased without an ESP would I have made any money and that was on an 89 Chevy.

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99 .. XL .. SC .. 4.2 .. 3.31 .. auto
Olathe Kansas

 

I bought a second ESP just in case something wasn't covered under the first one.


Oh wait, that isn't going to work is it?

(p.s. I also wear a belt AND suspenders )

[This message has been edited by Raoul (edited 12-03-1999).]

 

And you're a ROCK STAR!! I came out ahead on an ESP ONCE. About five years ago, I bought a used '92 F150 from Fred Jones Ford of Oklahoma City (they are the scum of the Earth, but the pickup was a good deal). The previously mentioned Joe Miller told me this song and dance about how a 5 year/75K ESP would EXTEND the basic warranty by 5 years or 75K miles; i.e., the vehicle would be warranteed for 8 years or 111K miles. I was completely dumbfounded and asked this jerk, point blank, if this was what he was saying, and he said yes. At any rate, I bought this ESP crap, and shortly later received a "thankyou" note in the mail from Ford along with some paperwork concerning the ESP indicating expiration was 5 years or 75K miles from the start of the original warranty. Moving along, I had to go through the dealership to get a refund. Del Shawn Harris (I'll use their REAL names, because they're scum) at Fred Jones tried to tell me some other BS in a VAIN effort to persuade me not to seek a refund. Around two weeks went by, and I had not received ANY refund. I sent the dealership a nasty note, hinting at LAWSUIT, and received my money THAT DAY. In all of Fred Jones' zeal to be deceitful, they forgot one important thing: CANCEL THE WARRANTY! THEY NEVER CANCELED IT! I used it to have a power window replaced as well as a starter (at another dealership, mind you). I drove that pickup for 82K miles and never had any real need for anything, aside from normal maintenence.

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'98 F150 XL Regular Cab, LWB, 4.2L V6, 5 Spd, 3.55 LS, Rhino Lining, factory heavy duty suspension, 3" Gibson Swept Side Cat Back, K&N filter, Oxford White minus the two tone garbage. BIG TIME FoMoCo p/u fan, not some fair weather hammerhead.

 

Ford Man, When my timing cover was replaced, the equitable charge if I paid for it out of my own pocket was $800.00, not $150.00 as you have suggested, unless that's a figure quoted by a shade tree mechanic. Timing cover replacement is not a simple affair on these trucks, compounded by the labor rates of professional mechanics.

Sure, I could go to a "shade tree" mechanic" and maybe have it done for less, however, I can't spare the time to keep bringing it back because the chances are that it won't be done correctly. I'd rather bring my truck to the organization that eats, drinks, and sleeps the Ford product, for repair work when it's required.

I'd never purchase the ESP during my current warranty period, only after it is about to expire. No sense in giving Ford your money while your currently enjoying the standard warrantly period.

A catastrophic repair will eventually hit you, when you least expect it....I would almost guarantee that due to the fact in which some problems with these vehicles have been materializing....

Other benefits come with the ESP, free rental cars during the repairs, and it's added value to your vehicle during resale. What private owner can offer a used vehicle for sale with a transferrable warranty ?

And if you don't keep the vehicle for the duration of the ESP, you can get a prorated refund.

I know I won't sway your position on this Ford man, not trying, just trying to temper your rebuttals with some good natured reasons to choose the ESP.

BTW, I just donned my flame retardant suit in anticipation of your reply.......

-kindest regards

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1999 F150 4x4, dark blue, 5.4l auto, Manick brush guard, KC Hilites, tinted windows, K&N air filter without airbox, Gibson side swept exhaust, bedliner, toolbox, Uniden CB with whip, and now, an appointment with Dr Ford for open heart surgery (to replace a Piston Slap'in Engine)...

 

No shade tree mechanics here, Homer. I'm talking bona fide ASE certified gearheads. I can certainly understand a DEALERSHIP charging $800 for timing COVER replacement, especially when a typical Ford dealership is charging you for 8 to 10 hours of labor at $65 to $75 per hour (which is around $20 an hour higher than an independent shop charges in my area). Just because some ding dong is working under a Ford shingle hung outside, that sure doesn't mean he's any good. You've got to realize, at some point, you're not going to have ANY warranty, ESP or otherwise! Then what? Do you go out and buy more coverage, or a new vehicle? If all of these catastrophic breakdowns of vehicles occur, how is it there are so many older vehicles still roadworthy? Is EVERYONE driving around with an engine with spun bearings? Is EVERYONE punching a valve through a piston? Is EVERYONE shelling out a transmission? As far as "pushing it to the max," do you have a bale spike mounted in your bed? Do you tow a stock trailer? Haul a spray rig? I think the only thing "pushed to the max" here, are the limits of the law and the speed limit. Take off your Nomex, but keep on your welding goggles.

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'98 F150 XL Regular Cab, LWB, 4.2L V6, 5 Spd, 3.55 LS, Rhino Lining, factory heavy duty suspension, 3" Gibson Swept Side Cat Back, K&N filter, Oxford White minus the two tone garbage. BIG TIME FoMoCo p/u fan, not some fair weather hammerhead.

 

wjt, You brought up some valid points.

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Who pays for YOUR rental car if there is a powertrain failure, even during 3/36?

ESP covers mine.

 

During 3/36 my dealer takes care of the rental.

 

my mother