EcoBoost and 5.0L comparo videos
Maybe. The eb mpg reports are all over the place. Some at 22 mpg highway and some at 16 mpg highway. Similar speeds similar terrain. The 5.0 seems more consistant with eachother ranging from 18-22.
NO! this whole thread is one big JOKE. Instead of your retarded reply, add to the thread. from the way I test drove the two trucks, I didn't notice any real difference, other than how awsome the 5L sounded.
I didn't do 0 to 60's with foot to the floor, but did the 90km/hr highway cruise and then put er down and feel the acceleration.
I also did a kind of rolling 30kms/hr to 60kms/hr test, and again, no black n white winner.
But I remember the smile on my face when I heard the v8
EDIT: Just checked the graphs on pickuptrucks.com unloaded 0-60 times shows a difference of only 0.39 seconds between the two engines.
I didn't do 0 to 60's with foot to the floor, but did the 90km/hr highway cruise and then put er down and feel the acceleration.
I also did a kind of rolling 30kms/hr to 60kms/hr test, and again, no black n white winner.
But I remember the smile on my face when I heard the v8

EDIT: Just checked the graphs on pickuptrucks.com unloaded 0-60 times shows a difference of only 0.39 seconds between the two engines.
I went truck shopping with a buddy a couple weeks ago and he was looking at the 5.0L and EB crew cab 4x4s. My Buddy and I would both agree with you, that there was not a heck of a lot difference in the 5.0L and the EB. Not much in MPGs either less then 1/2 mpg on overal average using the computers on two demos trucks that we drove each with about 3k on the clocks. We both thought the EB waste of money and 5.0 did sound awesome.
There was a little turbo lag that we niether one cared for on the EB as well.
That was the 3rd EB I have driven and I own at least one each of the other 3 motors offered, and for all around general purposes, I really like the 5.0L the best overall. Not that I plan to give up my personal truck with the 6.2L any time soon,LOL But I have not found a really good reason to buy an EB for business or personal use. Its cool technology but would rather seen them EB a 5.0L with a button added to alter the programing for max power or max economy.
Last edited by cc1999; Dec 19, 2011 at 05:22 PM.
I'm not surprised reading some of this. Most magazine reviews say the difference between the 5.0 and EcoBoost widens when you put a trailer on them. Stock for stock as a grocery-getter, pick whatever you like.
Number direct from ford. say yeah but, but they are hard to argue with
MPG
5.0- 14/19
EB-15/21
HP
5.0-360
EB-365
Torque
5.0-380
EB-420
Towing GCWR
5.0-15,300
EB-17,100
GVWR (4x4 Super cabs, 145 wheel base)
5.0-7350
EB- 7700
Payload
5.0- 1830
EB-2000
Plus add that the EB probably weighs 200-300lbs less, Its probably quite a bit quicker. SO I guess if sound makes a truck better, go for the 5.0
MPG
5.0- 14/19
EB-15/21
HP
5.0-360
EB-365
Torque
5.0-380
EB-420
Towing GCWR
5.0-15,300
EB-17,100
GVWR (4x4 Super cabs, 145 wheel base)
5.0-7350
EB- 7700
Payload
5.0- 1830
EB-2000
Plus add that the EB probably weighs 200-300lbs less, Its probably quite a bit quicker. SO I guess if sound makes a truck better, go for the 5.0
Think a lot of that goes to drivers as well.
I think thats what a lot of people are missing. Normal every day driving is there a huge difference no. But there is nothing out there including the 5.0 that has the capability that the EB has when towing.
I think the EB is a great development for Ford and will be a great engine, but I could not see paying extra for it when the 5.0 did everything I needed, including fuel efficency. I could tell no difference in power on my test drives and the EB actually had a significant turbo lag which was very annoying to me. It would take years to get back the extra cost if it did save one mpg. I hope the EB proves itself and Ford has a real winner on it's hands, but at this time, the 5.0 is my choice and if I had to buy again today, it would still be my choice.
One other point, even though it is superfulous. I suspect that if I applied the extra $750 that the EB cost (and added some to it) to the purchase of a turbo for the 5.0, it would walk all over the EB and the same goes for the 6.2.
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Now you are finally making some distinctions. Your original statements were blanket statements about how the EB was so superior in both performance and efficiencey that any other engine did not make sense, and I just had to respond. The fact of the matter is that many of us do not do significant towing just as we may have no need for a 4x4. The only towing I do is an occasional utility trailer headed to the compost dump. My old 5.4 handled that quite adequately as will this 5.0. So, other engines may appeal to some of us for other reasons.
I think the EB is a great development for Ford and will be a great engine, but I could not see paying extra for it when the 5.0 did everything I needed, including fuel efficency. I could tell no difference in power on my test drives and the EB actually had a significant turbo lag which was very annoying to me. It would take years to get back the extra cost if it did save one mpg. I hope the EB proves itself and Ford has a real winner on it's hands, but at this time, the 5.0 is my choice and if I had to buy again today, it would still be my choice.
One other point, even though it is superfulous. I suspect that if I applied the extra $750 that the EB cost (and added some to it) to the purchase of a turbo for the 5.0, it would walk all over the EB and the same goes for the 6.2.
I think the EB is a great development for Ford and will be a great engine, but I could not see paying extra for it when the 5.0 did everything I needed, including fuel efficency. I could tell no difference in power on my test drives and the EB actually had a significant turbo lag which was very annoying to me. It would take years to get back the extra cost if it did save one mpg. I hope the EB proves itself and Ford has a real winner on it's hands, but at this time, the 5.0 is my choice and if I had to buy again today, it would still be my choice.
One other point, even though it is superfulous. I suspect that if I applied the extra $750 that the EB cost (and added some to it) to the purchase of a turbo for the 5.0, it would walk all over the EB and the same goes for the 6.2.
Your last statement is majorly superulous in that a Turbo kit alone would run you close to 2 grand plus another 1-2 k for labor install. And at that point your talking black and white. Because what if I drop a 454BBC in my f150 it would kill your 5.0, bla bla. We could go all day on hyotheticals but fact is stock the EB has more torque and hp. Its better for towing. does it suit your needs or others maybe not. But to me to pay 750 bucks to get a better engine was a no brainer, why save 750 bucks for sound.
Last edited by nards444; Dec 20, 2011 at 09:57 AM.
Yeah maybe I made a blanket statement but the EB regardless has more torque and Hp and gets better gas mileage, do all drivers notice it maybe maybe not, but on paper its a stronger engine, you can argue with that, unless you want to say Ford is lying, which maybe they are.
Your last statement is majorly superulous in that a Turbo kit alone would run you close to 2 grand plus another 1-2 k for labor install. And at that point your talking black and white. Because what if I drop a 454BBC in my f150 it would kill your 5.0, bla bla. We could go all day on hyotheticals but fact is stock the EB has more torque and hp. Its better for towing. does it suit your needs or others maybe not. But to me to pay 750 bucks to get a better engine was a no brainer, why save 750 bucks for sound.
Your last statement is majorly superulous in that a Turbo kit alone would run you close to 2 grand plus another 1-2 k for labor install. And at that point your talking black and white. Because what if I drop a 454BBC in my f150 it would kill your 5.0, bla bla. We could go all day on hyotheticals but fact is stock the EB has more torque and hp. Its better for towing. does it suit your needs or others maybe not. But to me to pay 750 bucks to get a better engine was a no brainer, why save 750 bucks for sound.
The great thing is that Ford has hit a home run and has 4 engines that you really can't go wrong on. You just have to get the one that you like best. I don't recall anyone that is unhappy with their engine choice and that is a good thing. I'm glad you love your EB and that is how it should be, but just don't knock other people for making a different choice. Just like there are different colors, we all have different needs and likes on engines.
Just one more point. The dealer here in Athens Texas keeps about 20 F150s on their lot and out of those they typically have 2 or 3 EBs. That tells me that they think their customers prefer the 5.0 in this small town. In Fort Worth, where I bought mine, they have more of an equal mix.
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Last edited by Bluejay; Dec 20, 2011 at 10:20 AM.
I agree with bluejay. For me the difference was $750 eb premium +$500 5.0 only rebate which got me boss intake Cai and tune. In the 1/4 mile every magazine internet article... Says 2 tenths difference. I think I more than made up that 2 tenths.
[QUOTE=Bluejay;4741191]You're making those blanket statements again. Slightly better performance, yes. Better engine? Only time will tell. I drove them both and I preferred the feel of the 5.0 and I did not want to pay more for an engine that may turn out to have "first year" problems down the road. The V8 sound was an extra bonus, not the deciding factor. I actually went to the dealer with the intention of buying the EB but after driving both on the same route, I was sold on the 5.0.
The great thing is that Ford has hit a home run and has 4 engines that you really can't go wrong on. You just have to get the one that you like best. I don't recall anyone that is unhappy with their engine choice and that is a good thing. I'm glad you love your EB and that is how it should be, but just don't knock other people for making a different choice. Just like there are different colors, we all have different needs and likes on engines.
Just one more point. The dealer here in Athens Texas keeps about 20 F150s on their lot and out of those they typically have 2 or 3 EBs. That tells me that they think their customers prefer the 5.0 in this small town. In Fort Worth, where I bought mine, they have more of an equal mix.[/QUOTE]
Not what I was trying to do by knocking people and apologize, but fact remains its better performer on paper. But on the engine, thats why I have a 5 year warranty, if something is going to happen it will happen sooner or later and it will be covered. lets not forget the 5.0 is not new but also new. Really turbo engines usually are fine unless they are tweaked with, turbos usually dont ruin engine only ruin themselves, which can be costly. They are not like blowers.
As far as dealer distro it depends on how that works, car makers sometimes tell them what they get and sometimes dealers scramble just to have trucks on their lot. I went through 3 dealers all of which had to order the EB as they had none on the lot and couldnt keep them on the lot. Alot of attitudes are being changed with the EB and a lot of people just dont want to except the fact that the V8 is now being trumped, and beleive me I was the most skeptical at first. It goes back to the diesel guys thinking that only diesels can tow loads over 4000lbs. Again like you said its what you want and need. I truly beleive you will not see the 5.0 or an engine similar to it in 5-10 years down the road. really no sense it. I think you will see the v6, the 6.2 or equivalent and then I think you will see like a 4.0 or 4.3 turbo v6 that pushes 400-425 with 450 torque. And this will be their work horse.
The great thing is that Ford has hit a home run and has 4 engines that you really can't go wrong on. You just have to get the one that you like best. I don't recall anyone that is unhappy with their engine choice and that is a good thing. I'm glad you love your EB and that is how it should be, but just don't knock other people for making a different choice. Just like there are different colors, we all have different needs and likes on engines.
Just one more point. The dealer here in Athens Texas keeps about 20 F150s on their lot and out of those they typically have 2 or 3 EBs. That tells me that they think their customers prefer the 5.0 in this small town. In Fort Worth, where I bought mine, they have more of an equal mix.[/QUOTE]
Not what I was trying to do by knocking people and apologize, but fact remains its better performer on paper. But on the engine, thats why I have a 5 year warranty, if something is going to happen it will happen sooner or later and it will be covered. lets not forget the 5.0 is not new but also new. Really turbo engines usually are fine unless they are tweaked with, turbos usually dont ruin engine only ruin themselves, which can be costly. They are not like blowers.
As far as dealer distro it depends on how that works, car makers sometimes tell them what they get and sometimes dealers scramble just to have trucks on their lot. I went through 3 dealers all of which had to order the EB as they had none on the lot and couldnt keep them on the lot. Alot of attitudes are being changed with the EB and a lot of people just dont want to except the fact that the V8 is now being trumped, and beleive me I was the most skeptical at first. It goes back to the diesel guys thinking that only diesels can tow loads over 4000lbs. Again like you said its what you want and need. I truly beleive you will not see the 5.0 or an engine similar to it in 5-10 years down the road. really no sense it. I think you will see the v6, the 6.2 or equivalent and then I think you will see like a 4.0 or 4.3 turbo v6 that pushes 400-425 with 450 torque. And this will be their work horse.
Last edited by nards444; Dec 20, 2011 at 10:39 AM.
again what you wanted and needed and what was in your pocket book. And I will say it again, you can not compare a stock truck to modded truck sorry.
I'd give up on arguing for the 5.0 (or for any other motor). The eco boost is the new cummins of gas motors as far as owners mentalities from what i keep seeing. from most owners, not all.



