Caution - Pillar handle may break
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I wish I had seen this thread months ago. I came on tonight to search whether this was a known problem, and if there were good solutions.
I have an '08 Screw with side steps. My 84 year old mom is only able to get into the passenger seat by using the handle. It has been providing false sense of purpose - and security - for the 4+ years since new.
Today it snapped off with no warning. Fortunately, I have always opened and closed the door for her and placed my hand between her shoulder blades just in case her grip should slip, but never once imagining the handle could f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g break!! Thankfully, I caught her.
Unbelievable!! As stated in previous posts I read, this is a law suit waiting to happen. Once I got her balanced on her own feet, I investigated what had happened, and I simply could not believe how cheaply it was designed. Six trivial screws in plastic are never going to cut it.
I am an engineer, and to image that someone with design responsibility for that part actually signed off on it simply stuns me. I bet they saved a whole 1.5 cents on the cost of each handle by not using a proper piece of metal.
There are no words strong enough for my anger right now. If they are not going to build it strong enough to hold, don't put it there!! I can't help but wonder; are the seat-belts also only a mere "impression of purpose"? How about the brakes; did the same engineer sign off on those? Hey, maybe we can save another 2 cents by using Chinese junk metal on the steering tie-rods.
I have an '08 Screw with side steps. My 84 year old mom is only able to get into the passenger seat by using the handle. It has been providing false sense of purpose - and security - for the 4+ years since new.
Today it snapped off with no warning. Fortunately, I have always opened and closed the door for her and placed my hand between her shoulder blades just in case her grip should slip, but never once imagining the handle could f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g break!! Thankfully, I caught her.
Unbelievable!! As stated in previous posts I read, this is a law suit waiting to happen. Once I got her balanced on her own feet, I investigated what had happened, and I simply could not believe how cheaply it was designed. Six trivial screws in plastic are never going to cut it.
I am an engineer, and to image that someone with design responsibility for that part actually signed off on it simply stuns me. I bet they saved a whole 1.5 cents on the cost of each handle by not using a proper piece of metal.
There are no words strong enough for my anger right now. If they are not going to build it strong enough to hold, don't put it there!! I can't help but wonder; are the seat-belts also only a mere "impression of purpose"? How about the brakes; did the same engineer sign off on those? Hey, maybe we can save another 2 cents by using Chinese junk metal on the steering tie-rods.
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I wish I had seen this thread months ago. I came on tonight to search whether this was a known problem, and if there were good solutions.
I have an '08 Screw with side steps. My 84 year old mom is only able to get into the passenger seat by using the handle. It has been providing false sense of purpose - and security - for the 4+ years since new.
Today it snapped off with no warning. Fortunately, I have always opened and closed the door for her and placed my hand between her shoulder blades just in case her grip should slip, but never once imagining the handle could f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g break!! Thankfully, I caught her.
Unbelievable!! As stated in previous posts I read, this is a law suit waiting to happen. Once I got her balanced on her own feet, I investigated what had happened, and I simply could not believe how cheaply it was designed. Six trivial screws in plastic are never going to cut it.
I am an engineer, and to image that someone with design responsibility for that part actually signed off on it simply stuns me. I bet they saved a whole 1.5 cents on the cost of each handle by not using a proper piece of metal.
There are no words strong enough for my anger right now. If they are not going to build it strong enough to hold, don't put it there!! I can't help but wonder; are the seat-belts also only a mere "impression of purpose"? How about the brakes; did the same engineer sign off on those? Hey, maybe we can save another 2 cents by using Chinese junk metal on the steering tie-rods.
I have an '08 Screw with side steps. My 84 year old mom is only able to get into the passenger seat by using the handle. It has been providing false sense of purpose - and security - for the 4+ years since new.
Today it snapped off with no warning. Fortunately, I have always opened and closed the door for her and placed my hand between her shoulder blades just in case her grip should slip, but never once imagining the handle could f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g break!! Thankfully, I caught her.
Unbelievable!! As stated in previous posts I read, this is a law suit waiting to happen. Once I got her balanced on her own feet, I investigated what had happened, and I simply could not believe how cheaply it was designed. Six trivial screws in plastic are never going to cut it.
I am an engineer, and to image that someone with design responsibility for that part actually signed off on it simply stuns me. I bet they saved a whole 1.5 cents on the cost of each handle by not using a proper piece of metal.
There are no words strong enough for my anger right now. If they are not going to build it strong enough to hold, don't put it there!! I can't help but wonder; are the seat-belts also only a mere "impression of purpose"? How about the brakes; did the same engineer sign off on those? Hey, maybe we can save another 2 cents by using Chinese junk metal on the steering tie-rods.
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Well i never use mine don't even use the factory running bords I just step on into the cab don't even grab on to anything to get in. I'm only 6ft tall and my truck is at the stock 4x2 hieght.I always thought the handles would be more solid than that glad I never use mine.
Good thread to keep alive just for the sake of warning others.
Last edited by tbear853; 04-24-2013 at 07:21 PM.
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I wish I had seen this thread months ago. I came on tonight to search whether this was a known problem, and if there were good solutions.
I have an '08 Screw with side steps. My 84 year old mom is only able to get into the passenger seat by using the handle. It has been providing false sense of purpose - and security - for the 4+ years since new.
Today it snapped off with no warning. Fortunately, I have always opened and closed the door for her and placed my hand between her shoulder blades just in case her grip should slip, but never once imagining the handle could f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g break!! Thankfully, I caught her.
Unbelievable!! As stated in previous posts I read, this is a law suit waiting to happen. Once I got her balanced on her own feet, I investigated what had happened, and I simply could not believe how cheaply it was designed. Six trivial screws in plastic are never going to cut it.
I am an engineer, and to image that someone with design responsibility for that part actually signed off on it simply stuns me. I bet they saved a whole 1.5 cents on the cost of each handle by not using a proper piece of metal.
There are no words strong enough for my anger right now. If they are not going to build it strong enough to hold, don't put it there!! I can't help but wonder; are the seat-belts also only a mere "impression of purpose"? How about the brakes; did the same engineer sign off on those? Hey, maybe we can save another 2 cents by using Chinese junk metal on the steering tie-rods.
I have an '08 Screw with side steps. My 84 year old mom is only able to get into the passenger seat by using the handle. It has been providing false sense of purpose - and security - for the 4+ years since new.
Today it snapped off with no warning. Fortunately, I have always opened and closed the door for her and placed my hand between her shoulder blades just in case her grip should slip, but never once imagining the handle could f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g break!! Thankfully, I caught her.
Unbelievable!! As stated in previous posts I read, this is a law suit waiting to happen. Once I got her balanced on her own feet, I investigated what had happened, and I simply could not believe how cheaply it was designed. Six trivial screws in plastic are never going to cut it.
I am an engineer, and to image that someone with design responsibility for that part actually signed off on it simply stuns me. I bet they saved a whole 1.5 cents on the cost of each handle by not using a proper piece of metal.
There are no words strong enough for my anger right now. If they are not going to build it strong enough to hold, don't put it there!! I can't help but wonder; are the seat-belts also only a mere "impression of purpose"? How about the brakes; did the same engineer sign off on those? Hey, maybe we can save another 2 cents by using Chinese junk metal on the steering tie-rods.
The difference is my F-150 is a 98. Does anyone know if the older ones are actually tied into the pillar with something substantial (as I and any reasonable thinking being would expect) ? I plan to take stuff apart for a look anyway once (IF) it ever warms up here. Until then it's hands-off the grab handle, or aka what? Scarf hanger? Or would even that be expecting too much of it?
Yeah, really, what was the person who designed (using the term loosely) that thinking?
Kudos to the OP for bringing this to light!
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BTW fwiw I find the drivers back seat rear grab handle a blind spot when you have to turn or merge into another lane, its directly in my line of sight, would be nice if we could find some smooth ones to replace these.
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Thanks Blue Oval... BUT... I *DID* read through all the posts.
In fact, I even read more than that and found another thread you started regarding the same topic where I requested you re-post the photos you had that have expired; and which I hope showcase how the repair was made allowing me the chance to compare our respective truck assembly methodologies to ensure they are indeed the same before I ram a longer screw into a location that may exacerbate an already existing issue.
Instead of assuming that I didn't read all the posts and lambasting me for it, maybe you could just provide us with some informative pics so individuals can do the repair and be void of these unnecessary back and forth posts that litter discussion sites like this.
Look forward to the pics.
And thanks for the assist everyone!!!
In fact, I even read more than that and found another thread you started regarding the same topic where I requested you re-post the photos you had that have expired; and which I hope showcase how the repair was made allowing me the chance to compare our respective truck assembly methodologies to ensure they are indeed the same before I ram a longer screw into a location that may exacerbate an already existing issue.
Instead of assuming that I didn't read all the posts and lambasting me for it, maybe you could just provide us with some informative pics so individuals can do the repair and be void of these unnecessary back and forth posts that litter discussion sites like this.
Look forward to the pics.
And thanks for the assist everyone!!!
Last edited by Dman81; 07-13-2015 at 02:27 PM.
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Thanks Blue Oval... BUT... I *DID* read through all the posts.
In fact, I even read more than that and found another thread you started regarding the same topic where I requested you re-post the photos you had that have expired; and which I hope showcase how the repair was made allowing me the chance to compare our respective truck assembly methodologies to ensure they are indeed the same before I ram a longer screw into a location that may exacerbate an already existing issue.
Instead of assuming that I didn't read all the posts and lambasting me for it, maybe you could just provide us with some informative pics so individuals can do the repair and be void of these unnecessary back and forth posts that litter discussion sites like this.
Look forward to the pics.
And thanks for the assist everyone!!!
In fact, I even read more than that and found another thread you started regarding the same topic where I requested you re-post the photos you had that have expired; and which I hope showcase how the repair was made allowing me the chance to compare our respective truck assembly methodologies to ensure they are indeed the same before I ram a longer screw into a location that may exacerbate an already existing issue.
Instead of assuming that I didn't read all the posts and lambasting me for it, maybe you could just provide us with some informative pics so individuals can do the repair and be void of these unnecessary back and forth posts that litter discussion sites like this.
Look forward to the pics.
And thanks for the assist everyone!!!
I am sorry but I don't have the pics of the repair work I did. But, I can tell you what I did and you can decide if you want to choose that route.
I used type "B" stainless self tapping screws that are 3/16" longer than the factory screws. Also, dip them in some type of glue right before installing them. This is for that added strength advantage. I was a pipe fitter/certified welder/journeyman plumber before becoming disabled and had some PCV glue. I used that.
Trust me, mine has yet to come loose or even tweak at all since the repair! I am disabled, 5'11" tall, weigh 190 lbs., and HAVE to use my OMG (Oh My God) bar/handle every time I get into my truck.
Good luck and I hope you decide to try my method. It works!
Last edited by BlueOvalFitter; 08-01-2015 at 12:44 AM.
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Dman 81, I am very sorry for being arrogant towards you. I was working on my 3rd brake light (the post is on here somewhere) and was very furious with the light. I should not have been so aggressive towards you.
I am sorry but I don't have the pics of the repair work I did. But, I can tell you what I did and you can decide if you want to choose that route.
I used type "B" stainless self tapping screws that are 3/16" longer than the factory screws. Also, dip them in some type of glue right before installing them. This is for that added strength advantage. I was a pipe fitter/certified welder/journeyman plumber before becoming disabled and had some PCV glue. I used that.
Trust me, mine has yet to come loose or even tweak at all since the repair! I am disabled, 5'11" tall, weigh 290 lbs., and HAVE to use my OMG (Oh My God) bar/handle every time I get into my truck.
Good luck and I hope you decide to try my method. It works!
I am sorry but I don't have the pics of the repair work I did. But, I can tell you what I did and you can decide if you want to choose that route.
I used type "B" stainless self tapping screws that are 3/16" longer than the factory screws. Also, dip them in some type of glue right before installing them. This is for that added strength advantage. I was a pipe fitter/certified welder/journeyman plumber before becoming disabled and had some PCV glue. I used that.
Trust me, mine has yet to come loose or even tweak at all since the repair! I am disabled, 5'11" tall, weigh 290 lbs., and HAVE to use my OMG (Oh My God) bar/handle every time I get into my truck.
Good luck and I hope you decide to try my method. It works!
I really appreciate your assistance as well as the added tip about the glue. Next nice day I have, I will rip it off again and see if what you describe could work for mine as well.