Since nobody answered your question, i figured i would. I have never seen the edge in an autoparts store. I have seen it in a off road truck shop, but they only had one. You can order it online and get it shipped overnight if you are in a time crunch.

For anyone thats ordering an edge, i would strongly recommend just buying a gryphon. If im gonna spend 20K plus on a truck, then i can afford a few more bucks for a Gryphon.

 

thanks bro do u think they would be able to ship to a hotel room? i'm gonna stay in Sn MArcos 4 two days only..
I ain't got no mods so I think Edge'll be ok 4 me

 

I would assume they could if you could give them a physical address to the hotel and a room number. It would probaly be best to call them and check though. Yes the Edge will be fine for your truck....a big improvement over stock, and I'm sure you'll be pleased.


For whoever that asked how you get the shipping and stuff, it's all part of a package deal that edge is offering.

 

yeah, they should at least be able to ship it to the lobby. I would get the hotels address and put my room number as well, then tell the lobby you are waiting for a package

 

Well, seeing as how the Edge and the Gryphon pods are identical, what kind of paint has everyone used, and did you get it to match good? (Got any pics?)

I am waiting for my Gryphon to be delivered on Mar. 11th and I have the tan interior in my '08:

 

I went to advance auto and bought a rattle can of grey plastic bumper paint...matches perfectly, just havent painted my pod, too dam cold

 

The new edge pod came in silver that matched the dash perfect. It wasn't black like the original pods were.


BTW....that interior would kill me! It would be so hard to keep clean. My interior is black, chrome, and carbon with grey leather.

 

You can buy the grey one from Edge separately. I haven't checked any dealer prices but it is $45.00 on the Edge website.
http://www.edgeproducts.com/product....F-150+Dash+Pod

 

Yup, I have the same color interior. How do we get the pod to match?

 

I would assume paint it to match. My interior has the silver where the pod sits and it's a match.

 

I know it is a "Paint to match" item, my question is where and what kind/brand of paint to buy, and I would like to see some pics of some pods that HAVE been painted to match.

 

Why do you say that? There is still an air flow sensor and computer controlled injectors. The stock computer will add more fuel to the mixture without or without the Edge. It does this all its life as the air temperature and/or altitude changes.

In fact, anyone know what a custom tune for a CAI+Exhaust actually tunes?

 

Bill, of PHP has explained it before. The simplified answer is that the stock tune has parameter limitations. The PCM makes adjustments but like most things, there are limitations, a max and a min. The CAI throws more air than the max adjustmant for fuel and the MAF does not record all the air flow. The custom tunes changes the parameters.

 

Yeah, I got an email out to Bill to see what he says. But the above doesn't pass muster for me.

If the MAF can't record all the flow, the PCM can't reprogram it. Only a different MAF can fix the problem. Same with the injectors. They can only put out so much fuel and the computer can't change that. Same again for the O2 sensors. Either they can see all the unburned air and tell the injectors to compensate or the O2 sensors themselves need to be changed.

I can guess at what he does though now that I haven't got two bottles of wine in me. O2 sensors are only good to 3000rpm or so. After that a preprogrammed chart is used to mix fuel and air under the assumption that it is pulling as much vacuum as it can. He can reprogram the chart to be richer. But how much richer will be a guess (possibly based on experience) on his part because different intakes will flow different amounts of extra air.

I'm not saying the Edge/Gryphon isn't useful. Just advancing the timing from 83 octane to 87 will result in more performance. But I am highly skeptical that an intake and cat-back exhaust require any changes to the computer unless you also run higher pressure injectors and a larger diameter, better sensor MAF.

No?

 

It's obvious you have not tried an Edge/Gryphon or an Xcal3 for that matter. When you add close to 10% more HP plus all the shift improvements, it's more than just noticable. I know very little about the changing of parameters for the CAI but Bill's explanation made perfect sense at the time.