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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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Again, I will start by saying I don't know how the Edge does anything to to shift firmness, which is why I ASKED in the first place because it isn't in the manual. And I don't not believe you guys about the shift firmness at WOT. BUT, here is a quote on how automatics shift in a Chevy because I can't find a principle of operations guide online for Ford.

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For example, it has a means of deciding when the throttle is wide open (the detent cable) and WOT causes the modulator pressure to be ignored and instead a constant pressure from a detent regulator is used on the shift valves.
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So if the modulator pressure is ignored, why would changing its pressure matter at WOT at all?

Again, I believe you that it changes something at WOT. But not for the reasons your describing. Or rather, it doesn't make sense without further explanation.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:47 AM
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Back to the price, I cant find one Edge Evo under $399 (looked 3/9/9) so the Gryphon isnt that much more...Yes?
Correct the gryphon is $399 plus shipping. If you get the custom tunes they are $30 a piece at time of purchase.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BayouSupercrew
Back to the price, I cant find one Edge Evo under $399 (looked 3/9/9) so the Gryphon isnt that much more...Yes?

I just got one here. I like it so far.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Edge-...Q5fAccessories
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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You guys better call Edge before you buy on eBay. They have a download in their FAQ that says dealers who sell on eBay will have their authorized license revoked. And in the warranty section it says to have a valid warranty you have to purchase it from an authorized dealer.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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i bought a used edge and it wouldn't communicate with my truck because the software on it wasn't available. they sent me a new one and paid for the return shipping of the old one. the only thing he did ask was the foil seal on the bottom of the unit intact, other than that super customer service. he even gave me a new cable too.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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http://www.pmtdiesel.com/_e/Ford_Gas...5_4_Trucks.htm

$359.00 shipped
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by arrabil
Bluejay, I see where your confusion comes from. Bill wrote that the PCM cannot adjust the fuel pressure high enough based on an improper calculation. In other words, like I said many pages ago, the O2 sensor would detect a lean condition, and direct more fuel to be added. BUT because the calculation is so far off due to the new tube, it cannot add enough fuel to compensate as its not allowed to be that far off from the calculated amount. So the proper cross-section area is required to prevent the lean condition.

AND he further implies that even if the O2 sensor were allowed to deviate so far from the calculation to fix the lean condition it would take so long it would still throw codes every time you started the engine.

That is not what you've been saying, agreed?
No, I did not use those words. I did not need to. I summed it up by saying that the stock program had set parameters and could not adjust outside of those parameters and the CAI exceeded those paramters. It's the same thing, just summarized. A programmer changes the parameters and enters a new fuel table that fits the flow of the increased air. All the same thing. You are arguing about nothing. The only reason I see why is to impress us with your knowledge, which you have failed to do so, or just because you love to debate, or possibly you have trouble comprehending what is said.


If you don't believe that is what I said, here is a link to post number 43.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/3626184-post43.html
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sml175
I just got back from the dealer and I asked the service manager about the warranty. Everything you mentioned is in fact true. They can tell, and will know as soon as they hook up to the OBD port.
He did mention that as long as a rod doesn't go through the block, or something serious along those lines, they can turn a blind eye to it as long as they can get it through without Ford knowing.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
I just got back from the dealer and I asked the service manager about the warranty. Everything you mentioned is in fact true. They can tell, and will know as soon as they hook up to the OBD port.
He did mention that as long as a rod doesn't go through the block, or something serious along those lines, they can turn a blind eye to it as long as they can get it through without Ford knowing.
Oh, and further to the above and contrary to the general belief, even Ford installed superchargers (ie. Roush) or any other aftermarket mods installed by the dealer, the warranty is also null and void if a repair is deemed to be cause by that modification, even if it's a Ford Racing part installed by the dealer.

Also, I was standing next to an 09 F150 that was leaking through the sunroof and the water was traveling through the emergency handle on the passenger side. This is the handle people use to assist themselves when stepping into or getting out of the truck. Once the tech removed the first screw that holds the handle on, water poured out. They didn't know at that point what they would have to do to fix it.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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So the dealer was not yanking my chain. Hmmmm, guess I'll get one anyway!!!! Thanks for double checking for me.
Just installed a Lund Interceptor II bugshield and it seems strange to have big 3/4" gaps around the grill sides. Anyone else have this shield?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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So the dealer was not yanking my chain. Hmmmm, guess I'll get one anyway!!!! Thanks for double checking for me.
Just installed a Lund Interceptor II bugshield and it seems strange to have big 3/4" gaps around the grill sides. Anyone else have this shield?
What year? Maybe you have it upside down!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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The only reason I see why is to impress us with your knowledge, which you have failed to do so, or just because you love to debate, or possibly you have trouble comprehending what is said.
No, I wasn't trying to impress anyone with anything. I was asking questions to learn how something worked. Unfortunately there isn't anyone here who could possibly know. Don't worry, won't happen again.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by arrabil
No, I wasn't trying to impress anyone with anything. I was asking questions to learn how something worked. Unfortunately there isn't anyone here who could possibly know. Don't worry, won't happen again.
usually when you ask questions you dont jump all over people who try to give you answers, glad to hear it wont happen again
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Now who is being condescending?

Of course if what you call answers were actually RIGHT this might have worked out differently. But since you guys are parroting misinformation that you don't even understand or can back up in print, yes, I'm to blame.

What will never happen again is that I now know not to ask anything beyond how to repaint my emblems. Thanks for trying though.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by arrabil
Now who is being condescending?

Of course if what you call answers were actually RIGHT this might have worked out differently. But since you guys are parroting misinformation that you don't even understand or can back up in print, yes, I'm to blame.

What will never happen again is that I now know not to ask anything beyond how to repaint my emblems. Thanks for trying though.
I suggest going over to PHP's forum, registering there, and asking whatever you want for more knowledgable answers.
Obviously this board doesn't cut it, as you've mentioned several times already.

Good luck.
 
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