1. did you not understand what Bill said in his post?

2. Install your Edge, set it to Level 3 on premium fuel, and set the shift pressur to +12, +12 and +9. Take off down the road and notice you have a nice crisp shift but not a teeth rattling one. Then stop, and put it to the floor and see what happns when it shifts( have your mouth firmly closed). Then came back and tell us what you found out.

 

well I cant find the gryphon manual online, but it says shift firmness effects WOT shifting only, and I think the person who wrote the canned tunes would know

 

Please, I beg you, post here where Bill said anything about it.

OR

Admit you're the one who didn't understand it and are making up dookie to sound smart to other people who don't understand it either.

 

Don't just talk trash, prove it. Post here where that can be read.

 

PLEASE find it bjp

 

Good Grief! Am I the only one that misunderstood what Bill has said? Did he not say that the stock tune has parameters that the CAI exceeds, therefore it can not make the full adjustment needed? Did he not say that they adjust the parameters so that the program can take advantage of the additional air and mix the proper amount of fuel for the air recorded?

I give up.

 

I'll do it for you guys since you can't even find a manual online.

From the Gryphon manual:

SHIFT FIRMNESS
On automatic transmissions, these values represent a percentage change in shift
firmness, i.e. how “hard” your transmission shifts. A positive number will cause the
shift to be firmer; a negative number will cause it to be softer. Firming up the shifts
may help improve 0-60 and quarter mile times.


Again, a search for WOT only returns this relevant result:

WOT FUEL
The WOT Fuel option adjusts the amount of additional fuel during Wide Open (full)
Throttle. A value of 1.5 increases the fuel by 50%, a value of 1.8 increases the fuel by
80%, etc. Using a higher value may improve performance during hard acceleration.
This value only affects WOT fueling and has no effect on normal driving conditions.
Raising this value may help improve 0-60 and quarter mile times.

 

page 17 of the manual, i cant get the darn thing to load, http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...02004-2008.pdf

 

Good grief is right! No, he didn't say any of what you said!

Do you understand that density is the amount of something in a specified area?

Do you understand that the PCM has a MAF function where the cross-section area of the air tube is defined?

Do you understand that if you move the MAF to a bigger tube but use the old area number your calculation will be off?

If you understand all that, read what Bill wrote and you will find ALL that he said was that they change the cross-section area number to match the new tube so that the calculation is accurate.

Find me one place he mentions min or max on anything...



Page 17 of the manual:

SHIFT FIRMNESS
On automatic transmissions, these values represent a percentage change in shift
firmness, i.e. how “hard” your transmission shifts. A positive number will cause the
shift to be firmer; a negative number will cause it to be softer. Firming up the shifts
may help improve 0-60 and quarter mile times.

So bjp, where is it?

 

dont start the candescending bs dude

 

Nah, it says the same thing as the Edge manual.

 

Aw, you can write your insulting crap but can't take it? Indeed, lets leave the crap out of it. Just find what you promised because it isn't where you said it was...

Why so angry, last5oh? Wouldn't it be better to learn something and be right than to pound the minority voice into the ground due to ignorance?

 

ok so it isnt in the manual, I'll admit I'm wrong, it is somewhere though, might even be the parameter on the programmer, I will find it

 

Bluejay, I see where your confusion comes from. Bill wrote that the PCM cannot adjust the fuel pressure high enough based on an improper calculation. In other words, like I said many pages ago, the O2 sensor would detect a lean condition, and direct more fuel to be added. BUT because the calculation is so far off due to the new tube, it cannot add enough fuel to compensate as its not allowed to be that far off from the calculated amount. So the proper cross-section area is required to prevent the lean condition.

AND he further implies that even if the O2 sensor were allowed to deviate so far from the calculation to fix the lean condition it would take so long it would still throw codes every time you started the engine.

That is not what you've been saying, agreed?

 

Back to the price, I cant find one Edge Evo under $399 (looked 3/9/9) so the Gryphon isnt that much more...Yes?