It specifically says exactly what you mentioned above brotha.

 

last5oh_302, copy it out of the manual and post it. There isn't a single word about WOT shifting pressure. Not a single word. Here is what it says:

Shift Firmness
On automatic transmissions, these values represent a percentage change in
shift firmness, or in other words how “hard” your transmission will shift. A
positive number will cause the shift to be firmer. A negative number will
cause it to be softer.
(Hint: Firming up the shifts may help improve 0-60 and quarter mile times.)


Bluejay, if the shift is quicker under part throttle then the setting is being applied everywhere. Otherwise, why would the shift get quicker? Or am I misreading you?

 

When I say part, I said near WOT, maybe 3/4?

 

Bluejay, that would still be not-WOT to the computer. So the pressures must be doing something, no?

It would be a real shame if half the reason I bought this thing for didn't work as advertised. It'll be off to Troyer if thats the case.

 

Hmm, I can't find it now!

I'm 99.9% sure I saw "does not effect shifts during normal driving" under WOT shift firmness. I looked it up first, then posted it. I might be losing it.

Either way, the shifts under normal driving are not effected. Anyone that has used an Edge would agree, but during WOT, or near WOT, that's when you really notice the snap in each shift.

 

last5oh_302, I searched for "normal" and got:

This value only affects WOT fueling and has no effect on normal driving conditions.

Maybe thats what you read?

A search for "WOT" and "wide" returns nothing related.

 

I may have screwed up and read that under WOT Fuel :o

Anyway, this is a good article:

http://www.off-roadweb.com/tech/0608...mer/setup.html

 

Yeah, that must be where I saw it :o

 

arrabil - you'll love the edge when you get it and install it. Trust me its a good improvement that you can feel when your driving the truck.

 

Yeah, but I'm not changing the stock tune under any circumstances so I don't know how much of it I'll feel. Tires sizes, gear ratios, gauges, ODBII scanner features, shift points, shift firmness, and 0-60 timings, those features I will use. And if the shift firmness actually works, that would save me from buying a new valve body from Troyer.

Interestingly, here is what Troyer says about their valve body:

If you are using a performance chip or programmer, you may (or may not) want to back down the light-throttle shift firmness levels (if you are using our Troyer Performance custom tuning, we can easily take care of this for you, just give us a call at (540) 965-7126), depending on your individual preference for shift firmness.

So they are implying the programmers change part throttle shifts and not WOT ones. Whether that is correct, a misprint, or only applicable to other programmers is anyone's guess.

WOT shifts are always supposed to be firm so what they're saying makes perfect sense to me. At the same time your guy's actual experience cannot be discounted either. So I'll be finding out for myself since I'm a universal cynic.

 

Are you going to run your edge on level 1 2 or 3?

Just 1 and change for tires/gears and so forth?

 

I want to run "Transmission Only" whatever level that works out to. Level 1 like you're saying probably (they don't call them Levels in the manual so I don't want to confuse anything). And yes to the rest too.

 

Then yes it's "level 1" which is tranny only.

I would reccomend when you get time do alittle experiementing with 2, and 3 if you don't care to fill up with 91 or 93 octane. There is a lot to be gained, and can't hurt to try each setting and then choose what you want before just staying on tranny only.

 

There is a lot to be gained but there is no such thing as a free lunch.

If more power and more fuel economy could be had as easily as reprogramming the computer, believe me that Ford, Chevy, and Kia too would be all over it. So there must be a tradeoff. It could be as simple as gas quality concerns or it could be as simple as trading low-end torque for high-end horsepower. But it also could be as complicated as lowering the life-span of the fuel pump and injectors to something with the piston rings.

I plan on having this F-150 for the next 15 years and only expect to have trouble with the transmission. The rest of it can get figured out by the people you guys sell your trucks to.

 

Ok, went to the dealer to get some noise checked on the new vehicle. Asked the tech about Diablo, Gryphon, Evo, and he stated that no matter what is used, if they fnd that anything was used during warranty work, the ENTIRE warranty becomes void. Not just the engine and tranny. They actually had about 20 work sheets posted on the board that stated "if the company thought it could run better they would have". All of the worksheets showed voided warranties due to running a programmer. Just thought I would relay this. Any other dealers playing fear factor?