Lowering a 4X4
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Lowering a 4X4
I regularly need 4wd but don't do the off road thing anymore so have no need for the ground clearance and have had enough of big tires. I would like to lower a 4X4 to the same height as a 4X2.
Question: Do the front end parts all have the same geometry, particularly the spindles? Can I simply drop the front and redo the alignment? Rear is easy, but I'm not too sure about the front.
Question: Do the front end parts all have the same geometry, particularly the spindles? Can I simply drop the front and redo the alignment? Rear is easy, but I'm not too sure about the front.
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Well, your details indicate a 2001 4X4 but you're in a 2015-16 model year section. Not that I care, but not likely to garner the replies you seak.
There is this long thread to get you started .... in suspension section.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...x4-thread.html
I lowered my '07 FX4 to 2wd height ..... maybe a hair more in front .... love it.
There is this long thread to get you started .... in suspension section.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...x4-thread.html
I lowered my '07 FX4 to 2wd height ..... maybe a hair more in front .... love it.
Last edited by tbear853; 07-30-2016 at 04:57 PM.
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Well, your details indicate a 2001 4X4 but you're in a 2015-16 model year section. Not that I care, but not likely to garner the replies you seak.
There is this long thread to get you started .... in suspension section.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...x4-thread.html
I lowered my '07 FX4 to 2wd height ..... maybe a hair more in front .... love it.
There is this long thread to get you started .... in suspension section.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...x4-thread.html
I lowered my '07 FX4 to 2wd height ..... maybe a hair more in front .... love it.
Thank you for posting the thread, but I'm not seeing an answer to my question there. Anyone know if the 4X4 and 4X2 share front suspension geometry, more specifically spindle geometry?
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They "share" common Lower and Upper control arms
2wd uses spindle with a two piece hub
4wd uses a knuckle with a bolt on hub
The ride height difference between the two is achieve with different length shocks.
The geometry is *slightly* different. They both are SLA (Short-Long Arm) style geometry.
If you were to lower a 4wd using 2wd struts, you *slightly* altered your factory geometry, but you would then be mimicking 2wd geometry.
You're arguing about a miniscule amount of difference, and pissing off people trying to help, because you can't read between the lines. Did I spell it out enough for you?
2wd uses spindle with a two piece hub
4wd uses a knuckle with a bolt on hub
The ride height difference between the two is achieve with different length shocks.
The geometry is *slightly* different. They both are SLA (Short-Long Arm) style geometry.
If you were to lower a 4wd using 2wd struts, you *slightly* altered your factory geometry, but you would then be mimicking 2wd geometry.
You're arguing about a miniscule amount of difference, and pissing off people trying to help, because you can't read between the lines. Did I spell it out enough for you?
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Some people change their details, some don't change them. Some people post in wrong places, others don't. I don't assume much these days.
Anyway .... I see that Patman has spelled it out.
Anyway .... I see that Patman has spelled it out.
Last edited by tbear853; 07-30-2016 at 04:58 PM.
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They "share" common Lower and Upper control arms
2wd uses spindle with a two piece hub
4wd uses a knuckle with a bolt on hub
The ride height difference between the two is achieve with different length shocks.
The geometry is *slightly* different. They both are SLA (Short-Long Arm) style geometry.
If you were to lower a 4wd using 2wd struts, you *slightly* altered your factory geometry, but you would then be mimicking 2wd geometry.
You're arguing about a miniscule amount of difference, and pissing off people trying to help, because you can't read between the lines. Did I spell it out enough for you?
2wd uses spindle with a two piece hub
4wd uses a knuckle with a bolt on hub
The ride height difference between the two is achieve with different length shocks.
The geometry is *slightly* different. They both are SLA (Short-Long Arm) style geometry.
If you were to lower a 4wd using 2wd struts, you *slightly* altered your factory geometry, but you would then be mimicking 2wd geometry.
You're arguing about a miniscule amount of difference, and pissing off people trying to help, because you can't read between the lines. Did I spell it out enough for you?
Never asked how to lower the front, rear, or anything else. Just asked a specific question. If my continuing to push for a direct answer to a direct question pisses people off to the point that they stop providing advice I didn't ask for, that would be great. Even your supposed direct answer did not answer the simple question of whether the spindle has a different geometry. Thank you for clarifying that they share arms.
Seriously: A simple yes or no on the spindles would suffice. That is if anyone around here actually knows. If not, that's fine too, but I would rather my thread drift off into oblivion than read a bunch of crap where people try and show how much they do know when they actually have no idea.
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Wasn't arguing about anything, just asking a specific question. Can't help that people find the temptation to speak up with non-answers irresistible.
Never asked how to lower the front, rear, or anything else. Just asked a specific question. If my continuing to push for a direct answer to a direct question pisses people off to the point that they stop providing advice I didn't ask for, that would be great. Even your supposed direct answer did not answer the simple question of whether the spindle has a different geometry. Thank you for clarifying that they share arms.
Seriously: A simple yes or no on the spindles would suffice. That is if anyone around here actually knows. If not, that's fine too, but I would rather my thread drift off into oblivion than read a bunch of crap where people try and show how much they do know when they actually have no idea.
Never asked how to lower the front, rear, or anything else. Just asked a specific question. If my continuing to push for a direct answer to a direct question pisses people off to the point that they stop providing advice I didn't ask for, that would be great. Even your supposed direct answer did not answer the simple question of whether the spindle has a different geometry. Thank you for clarifying that they share arms.
Seriously: A simple yes or no on the spindles would suffice. That is if anyone around here actually knows. If not, that's fine too, but I would rather my thread drift off into oblivion than read a bunch of crap where people try and show how much they do know when they actually have no idea.
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They "share" common Lower and Upper control arms
2wd uses spindle with a two piece hub
4wd uses a knuckle with a bolt on hub
The ride height difference between the two is achieve with different length shocks.
The geometry is *slightly* different. They both are SLA (Short-Long Arm) style geometry.
If you were to lower a 4wd using 2wd struts, you *slightly* altered your factory geometry, but you would then be mimicking 2wd geometry.
You're arguing about a miniscule amount of difference, and pissing off people trying to help, because you can't read between the lines. Did I spell it out enough for you?
2wd uses spindle with a two piece hub
4wd uses a knuckle with a bolt on hub
The ride height difference between the two is achieve with different length shocks.
The geometry is *slightly* different. They both are SLA (Short-Long Arm) style geometry.
If you were to lower a 4wd using 2wd struts, you *slightly* altered your factory geometry, but you would then be mimicking 2wd geometry.
You're arguing about a miniscule amount of difference, and pissing off people trying to help, because you can't read between the lines. Did I spell it out enough for you?
The answer is Yes the distance/angle/geometery/relationship between the upper and lower ball joints is the same