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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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large gains with a cold air no but still a gain fuel econ does improve do the math but hard as bolt on power is concerned under drive pulleys give much more power for the money over e fans which are pretty pricey and some have been known to fail with a year


well agree with the edge being a waste of money but far as low dollar power / improve fuel econ go's id start with a cold air and pulleys

and if you mud with a cold air intake and dont have a prefilter thats just dumb
 

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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ive mudded with my open K&N 77 filter and it didnt suck any mudd in E-fans are only pricey if u buy the kits just go to the junk yard and get Fans for like 30 bucks and get a Temp controller for liek 42 bucks at autozone. and you have a homemade E-fan like i didn
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Right on man, I have just seen way too many guys, off to the side with the hood up pouring water out and cleaning off their open CAI filter. Just from what i have seen, I will stick with an enclosed one.

You guys really noticing much with the E-Fan install ?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Right on man, I have just seen way too many guys, off to the side with the hood up pouring water out and cleaning off their open CAI filter. Just from what i have seen, I will stick with an enclosed one.

You guys really noticing much with the E-Fan install ?
If your saying an open CAI will suck more water/mud - I have to disagree, in fact it's the complete opposite

Heres what happened to my kids "sealed" factory CAI after mudding. The filter was so saturated , it was still dripping when I pulled it out. -



If you go mudding , you may want to temporarily plug that factory hole and loose the box to prevent that from happening to you..
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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You guys really noticing much with the E-Fan install ?
yes solid 1-1.5 mpg gains under all driving conditions
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Can you prove this ?

CAI is a waste of $$$ if you ask me. Until you have an engine that warrant the upgrade (custom tuned, or other mods needing more air).

Also know, if more air gets in, more dirt gets in.

beige150: Best bet for performance would be gears and custom tunes from Troyer. Or you could run something like the "Edge" . Lots of people are saying they are getting some extra "umph" out of it (although some are complaining about other transmission problems and such)

Check out Troyer Performance.
the only time i even think about a CAI is the cheap ones off e-bay. they're as good as the stock intake, take up less space and hey! replaces those broken plastic pieces lol
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:37 AM
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If your saying an open CAI will suck more water/mud - I have to disagree, in fact it's the complete opposite

Heres what happened to my kids "sealed" factory CAI after mudding. The filter was so saturated , it was still dripping when I pulled it out. -



If you go mudding , you may want to temporarily plug that factory hole and loose the box to prevent that from happening to you..
I would bet you anything, if your daughter had the open style CAI the filter itself would look a lot worse then the actual filter in that pic.

Plus, you gotta include the whole story if using that as an example ! I read that one, if some uses their truck to go "mud skiing" i would expect dirt and damage like that. If you would like, I can snap a pic of my air filter, I just went muddin last weekend. Looks brand new. My truck didnt. I will be going again at the end of the month, again I can take pics. My truck goes out 1-2 times a month and I have had zero problems. Can't say as muh for my buddy and his jeep (k&n CAI).

 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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I fabed up an efan kit on a 4.2 and ran it for a couple of weeks and it felt a little more peppy, The sound was the best part, You know most of the noise from the engine other than exhaust is fron the conventional fan.

I took it off because the truck was my sons DD and he is going to college in another town. I don't like working on the cht in parking lots, in the case of a breakdown that is.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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I would bet you anything, if your daughter had the open style CAI the filter itself would look a lot worse then the actual filter in that pic.

Plus, you gotta include the whole story if using that as an example ! I read that one, if some uses their truck to go "mud skiing" i would expect dirt and damage like that.

Damn! You seen that thread huh

I think if the filter would have been mounted inside the cab - it still wouldn't have been safe after that one.

 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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i think it'd be a neat vacuum trick to seal the cab a little better then have it pull air from the cab. have her rolling down the window and up trying to figure out where that drafts coming from.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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(I will be buying S&B intake... for the looks).
Just wondering, Y are you getting the s&b if you dont like intakes. it cant be for the look. you definitely gonna notice the power difference.

Originally Posted by MercedesTech
Can you prove this ?

CAI is a waste of $$$ if you ask me. Until you have an engine that warrant the upgrade (custom tuned, or other mods needing more air).

Also know, if more air gets in, more dirt gets in.

The intake will let more air in , so I thought you would hate this. It will not let more dirt in. the design of not only the filter but tube allows you to get more air in. Trust me bro a CAI is really not a waste of time.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Currently talking with a couple different guys about a supercharger for our trucks. The guy is Kenny Belle over with Whipple. He mention maybe working with another company such as Vortech or Paxton. I'll let yall know what comes of these "talks" .
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chris49
Just wondering, Y are you getting the s&b if you dont like intakes. it cant be for the look. you definitely gonna notice the power difference.



The intake will let more air in , so I thought you would hate this. It will not let more dirt in. the design of not only the filter but tube allows you to get more air in. Trust me bro a CAI is really not a waste of time.
First of all, good point about the tube. That is a large part in the design and does allow for more air flow. But that is not the restricting factor with stock settings. Didn't say I was "against intake" or "don't like em" . They are just not all they are cracked up to be. Also go back and read, I don't like the open filter element style CAI. I see too many problems with em out in the field, pits, trails, etc.

Also, I said they are great, once your engine needs it. As it sits now (stock) it has the stock tunes, made based on the factory air intake once you over flow it with a CAI, you will begin to run lean. Wait til you can make the proper tunes to avoid running lean.

Also, as your truck sits now, the filter is NOT the restricting element. It just isn't. Your engine can only "breathe" in so much air, your stock filter does that job. Use the "search" function. this dead horse gets beaten at least once a month.

I want the S&B intake, because.... again..... I like the way they look. When you pop your hood for someone to check out, it just makes it look that much nicer, more taken care of. Not sure what it is, but yes, I really like the look. No I will not notice ANY improvements. And no, i will not purchase it until after my custom tunes and the correct adjustments can be made. Many more mods lay ahead of the CAI.

And yes bud, more dirt gets in. I have seen it. Plain and simple. I have seen the filter taken off for regular oiling and there was a very small amount of dust past the filter. Come out to some of the dusty conditions I see, the mud I drive in, and you'll see just how "great" those open filters are. Next time it happens, I will be sure to snap some pics, then snap pics of my stock (clean) filter.

Throwing a CAI is not going to net you any noticeable horsepower or "umph" off the line. If anything, you may notice it during WOT. It will not net any big MPG gains worth the price (IMO ! ). They make stock tuned truck run lean, leading to unnecessary wear and tear. Its a great mod, when you need it.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
They make stock tuned truck run lean, leading to unnecessary wear and tear. Its a great mod, when you need it.
not true my 97 2 years no lean code!!!!!! do your homework before opening your mouth!!! easy as resetting your computer it will learn to use it
 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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Yea - at least someones catching on - this guys full of sh^t ain't he
 
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