Bush Killed The One-Fifties!!!
Originally Posted by Raptor05121
You're wrong, but then right. I just did a Hydrogen Term Paper for Physical Science class and I learned that the element hydrogen does NOT exist on earth. We have to "mine" it from water with electrolysis methods which are vagely expensive and only produce a very minimal amount of hydrogen. Also, hydrogen is an energy carrier like electricity not an energy producer like fuel. Even then, a hydrogen fuel cell will have to be at the minimum 5x larger than a gasoline tank to hold the same amount. ALSO....the vehicle is run on a motor (I know the British are going to disagree with me on this one, but by definition, a motor is an electrically operated machine while an engine is one run by internal combustion or other means) so basically your "motor" is getting power from an energy "carrier" in this huge-a$$ tank that is holding a very lethal substance (when mixed with an oxygen environment). An example of this is is if you puncture your fuel cell and hydrogen is mixed with O2 and a spark appears, your car is the next Hindenburg, but on a smaller scale. So let's hope the recdnecks don't go off-roading in their hyrodgen-powered "H-150's" (as I assume Ford will name them, pun intended)
-Alex
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-Alex
...getting ready for the 3 million posts to combat mine....
@ the goat man!- NCSU
Edited to Add... Your second sentance is just wrong. The element hydrogen does exist on earth, in many forms, just not naturally in its elemental form. There is a huge difference between the two statements.
and you can run hydrogen in an ICE.
Last edited by NCSU_05_FX4; Dec 20, 2007 at 08:20 AM.
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From: Abilene
Originally Posted by MSH
There are a lot of US patents that improve mpg or use other sources of energy. They are bought by oil companies and shelved to protect the demand for their product, OIL.
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From: Houston
Originally Posted by Raptor05121
You're wrong, but then right. I just did a Hydrogen Term Paper for Physical Science class and I learned that the element hydrogen does NOT exist on earth. We have to "mine" it from water with electrolysis methods which are vagely expensive and only produce a very minimal amount of hydrogen. Also, hydrogen is an energy carrier like electricity not an energy producer like fuel. Even then, a hydrogen fuel cell will have to be at the minimum 5x larger than a gasoline tank to hold the same amount. ALSO....the vehicle is run on a motor (I know the British are going to disagree with me on this one, but by definition, a motor is an electrically operated machine while an engine is one run by internal combustion or other means) so basically your "motor" is getting power from an energy "carrier" in this huge-a$$ tank that is holding a very lethal substance (when mixed with an oxygen environment). An example of this is is if you puncture your fuel cell and hydrogen is mixed with O2 and a spark appears, your car is the next Hindenburg, but on a smaller scale. So let's hope the recdnecks don't go off-roading in their hyrodgen-powered "H-150's" (as I assume Ford will name them, pun intended)
-Alex
...getting ready for the 3 million posts to combat mine....
-Alex
...getting ready for the 3 million posts to combat mine....
Last edited by scott1981; Dec 20, 2007 at 10:04 AM.
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From: the moral high ground
Originally Posted by scott1981
Interesting info, looks like the future doesnt have that many great options sadly..
GOAT DUNG!
Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
Please tell me you used other sources besides wikipedia for your paper.
Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
The element hydrogen does exist on earth, in many forms, just not naturally in its elemental form.
Originally Posted by MSH
I'm all for a car or truck that runs on tap water. Of course that will never happen. Even if they did have a mass produced engine that runs on water, the auto makers and the oil companies will make sure you still have to go to the corner Exxon and fill up with "special water" that costs $5 a gallon.
As for
Originally Posted by RacingJake
You got that right, I remember back in the 70's about a car that could get 50 mpg, Some Oil Company showed up and never heard another word about that car.
Some of you guys out there are kinda paranoid...
- NCSU
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From: Rohnert Park, CA
Originally Posted by Pheonixx
all you need is 1.21 jigawatts and some bananna peels and a half can of beer...
dude! can't forget the "fluxator Compacitor" ! ! ! most important for fuel effeciency and time travel.(this thread is a bit off topic I think
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From: CA
Originally Posted by lenore
Maybe it will force the Car manufacturors to get off gas, I would love to stick it to the Arabs and Venezulia scum that soak us dry. Heck they own everything now because of our high oil useage. We should have taken them over and converted to something different. just my 2 cents worth.
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From: Dahlgren, VA
Originally Posted by Buzzz
Man do you have some learning to do. You think the Arabs force us to use oil? You think they squash all the alternative fuel ideas? Wake up, it's the large oil corporations. They will not let another fuel source to come in and ruin their money train. They will continue to suck us dry by constantly raising gas prices with their petty excuses.
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From: Over Here
Originally Posted by turtle313
It's a combined effort. OPEC and Big Oil.
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From: Dahlgren, VA
Originally Posted by TheCure
I wonder if the conspiracy nuts on a Yaris or Prius bb bitch about big oil or battery conglomerates or do they bitch about people driving 1/2 ton pickups around with nothing in the bed?:santa: