Another LEMON!!!
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From: Cocoa, Florida
"another lemon" is a specific statement in my case. As you guys see, i have own many ford vehicles. In 04 i turned in 2 01 navigators for the 04's, one of which i just traded in for the mark lt. the other navi was lemon lawed because the steering rack was replaced 4 times in 3 months. The whole steering wheel would move between 1/2-2 inches when hitting bumps or basic bad florida roads.
I am in no way bashing ford for this truck problem, and its quite apperent that i am loyal customer. But, under no cercumstance will i be accepting the replacement enigine option that some other people have been given. I didnt trade two perfect vehicles for a rebuilt, torn down, engine swapped vehicle is only 500 miles on it.
I am in no way bashing ford for this truck problem, and its quite apperent that i am loyal customer. But, under no cercumstance will i be accepting the replacement enigine option that some other people have been given. I didnt trade two perfect vehicles for a rebuilt, torn down, engine swapped vehicle is only 500 miles on it.
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From: Abilene
Since your new truck will be at the Ford Cave twice in one month for the same thing and you havn't own it more than 3 week's and it's not even June yet I'd call it another "Super Lemon"
I agree, I'd be pIssed off too
I agree, I'd be pIssed off too
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Ford makes almost 1 Million F-150's a year. That eclipses the truck sales of the other manufacturers. You make that many trucks, there's bound to be a few thousand of them that develop problems.
You just happen to be one of the unfortunate few. I've had 7 new F-150's and perhaps another 10 different models of new Ford vehicles over the years and have experienced zero mechanical problems. That's not to say it doesn't happen. My sister's '83 Mustang had all kinds of issues Ford could never fix. I bought a used '94 Ranger that blew a tranny and an engine (probably due to the abuse of the previous owner). They replaced the tranny under warranty, but getting the engine fixed under warranty proved to be an impossible task.
I completely understand you want another truck. I'm right there with you. Legally, they don't have to. You have to give them at least four attempts (in most states) to repair the vehicle you bought.
You just happen to be one of the unfortunate few. I've had 7 new F-150's and perhaps another 10 different models of new Ford vehicles over the years and have experienced zero mechanical problems. That's not to say it doesn't happen. My sister's '83 Mustang had all kinds of issues Ford could never fix. I bought a used '94 Ranger that blew a tranny and an engine (probably due to the abuse of the previous owner). They replaced the tranny under warranty, but getting the engine fixed under warranty proved to be an impossible task.
I completely understand you want another truck. I'm right there with you. Legally, they don't have to. You have to give them at least four attempts (in most states) to repair the vehicle you bought.
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87 toyota 4wd wort vehicle I ever owned. I drove it like I wanted to drive it a million miles- easy on throttle easy on the shifts. wore out 3 sets of synchronizers. amoung many other problems like recurring head gasket leaks. Toyota does a good job of hiding their recalls. Did you know that every V6 produced from 88 to 94 got recalled for head gasket leaks. I had two friends that had their engines blow on the way to the dealer for the head gasket recall.
96 F150 4.6 best vehicle I have ever owned
96 F150 4.6 best vehicle I have ever owned
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Originally Posted by screwtech02
Man, sorry for your woes dude... This is just a "preview of coming attractions" for most if not ALL of the newer F-series, and Super Duty lines, anything built after 03 with the newer motors/trans, "drive by wire" is GONNA be JUNK, not a question of how/why, but when.... Just try gettin the spark plugs out of a 10-12000 mile truck with a 3v, guarantee they are gonna snap off in the head, and they are supposed to be "100k" serviceable??? ROFL...
As far as the trans issues go, that is pretty much a "normal" characteristic of the newer trucks, they are just built like crap, and the fact of the matter is, FORD/dealership has already gotten your 50k for a overpriced/rebaged F-150, and don't care in the slightest...
Another point is that if it has under 500 miles on it now, and has been in the shop LONGER than you have owned/driven it, it's probably gonna LIVE at the dealership from here on out..... You may wanna think about a trade....
Good luck, i hear Toyota builds a better truck now days.....
As far as the trans issues go, that is pretty much a "normal" characteristic of the newer trucks, they are just built like crap, and the fact of the matter is, FORD/dealership has already gotten your 50k for a overpriced/rebaged F-150, and don't care in the slightest...
Another point is that if it has under 500 miles on it now, and has been in the shop LONGER than you have owned/driven it, it's probably gonna LIVE at the dealership from here on out..... You may wanna think about a trade....
Good luck, i hear Toyota builds a better truck now days.....
Ford's sold what... 3.2+ MILLION current model (2004+) F150's?!?!
Are there problems with a few of those 3.2+ million? Yeah. Is the current generation F150 junk? Not in the least.
D@mn.
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Originally Posted by txnole
Perhaps the least informed post of 2007.
Ford's sold what... 3.2+ MILLION current model (2004+) F150's?!?!
Are there problems with a few of those 2.8+ million? Yeah. Is the current generation F150 junk? Not in the least.
D@mn.
Ford's sold what... 3.2+ MILLION current model (2004+) F150's?!?!
Are there problems with a few of those 2.8+ million? Yeah. Is the current generation F150 junk? Not in the least.
D@mn.
Untill you WORK on these piles day in and day out, i would reserve your judgment of my post...
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
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Originally Posted by screwtech02
Untill you WORK on these piles day in and day out, i would reserve your judgment of my post...
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
I also reserve the right to be biased....
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Originally Posted by screwtech02
Untill you WORK on these piles day in and day out, i would reserve your judgment of my post...
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
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Originally Posted by screwtech02
Untill you WORK on these piles day in and day out, i would reserve your judgment of my post...
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
Unless your one of the FINE FORD engineers that designd this masterpiece, which in case, myself, and a few other techs i know would like to meet you in person, to get a "better" understanding of the product........
I reserve the right to be biased.....
Same thing applies to you, you are a mechanic at a dealer that services THOUSANDS of vehicles, and all you do is see the ones being worked on. Thus, you assume they are all "piles." In reality, if that were truly the case the F150 just simply would not sell as well as it does, and there would be widespread knowledge of the supposed plague that is taking them over according to you.
It's just not true, sorry.
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found this somewhere on the web about our import competitor the Tundra so don't feel too bad.
Yes, the title is right. Broken camshaft on the new 5.7 L.
Going down the freeway w/ cruise set at 70 & started loosing speed & had to pull over. I then started it about 10 more times so i could get off the freeway & put it on the flatbed & towed it to SLC with my bro's tundra.
They do not know why it happened. Maybe overtorqued bolts, maybe it was dropped during assembly. They will be tearing into the heads in the morning & i'll know more then. I was told if something else caused it to break, then toyota will more than likely send out a new motor.
Should i demand a new motor?
Or, should i demand an extended warranty?
I feel like i should be concerned with future potential problems. And i think i should demand something.
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
Yes, the title is right. Broken camshaft on the new 5.7 L.
Going down the freeway w/ cruise set at 70 & started loosing speed & had to pull over. I then started it about 10 more times so i could get off the freeway & put it on the flatbed & towed it to SLC with my bro's tundra.
They do not know why it happened. Maybe overtorqued bolts, maybe it was dropped during assembly. They will be tearing into the heads in the morning & i'll know more then. I was told if something else caused it to break, then toyota will more than likely send out a new motor.
Should i demand a new motor?
Or, should i demand an extended warranty?
I feel like i should be concerned with future potential problems. And i think i should demand something.
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
Being as that you're a mechanic, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you didn't make it to a college-level statistics class, right? (No offense meant) If you had you would realize a concept called "sampling" plays a huge roll when determining the true, general pattern of something being tested. For instance, if I wanted to know if Americans were depressed or not, I wouldn't do 100% of my research at the exit of a cemetery. That is a BIASED, POOR sample.
Same thing applies to you, you are a mechanic at a dealer that services THOUSANDS of vehicles, and all you do is see the ones being worked on. Thus, you assume they are all "piles." In reality, if that were truly the case the F150 just simply would not sell as well as it does, and there would be widespread knowledge of the supposed plague that is taking them over according to you.
It's just not true, sorry.
Same thing applies to you, you are a mechanic at a dealer that services THOUSANDS of vehicles, and all you do is see the ones being worked on. Thus, you assume they are all "piles." In reality, if that were truly the case the F150 just simply would not sell as well as it does, and there would be widespread knowledge of the supposed plague that is taking them over according to you.
It's just not true, sorry.
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With millions of Ford trucks on the road there will always be a couple thousand with problems, it's absolutely un-avoidable. Being a Ford mechanic, all you look at are busted Fords. Go to a Chevy dealer and talk to the mechanic there, which will likely say Chevy's are "piles" as well. For every 1 ford truck in the shop with something broken, there's probably 10,000 cruising around just fine.
And ya, Toyota is phenomenal at covering-up little "boo-boos" in their manufacturing, minor issues such as faulty head gaskets and defective transmissions.
Just look around. How many old (say '90 or earlier) trucks of a brand are still on the road? I see loads of older Ford trucks still around. Sometimes see an older GMC, and rarely ever a Chevy more than 10 years old. Japanese trucks? Never, at least not outside of a junkyard.
Ford has been #1 in sales for 30some years for a reason, which is one fact the GM fanboys just can't stand.
And ya, Toyota is phenomenal at covering-up little "boo-boos" in their manufacturing, minor issues such as faulty head gaskets and defective transmissions.
Just look around. How many old (say '90 or earlier) trucks of a brand are still on the road? I see loads of older Ford trucks still around. Sometimes see an older GMC, and rarely ever a Chevy more than 10 years old. Japanese trucks? Never, at least not outside of a junkyard.
Ford has been #1 in sales for 30some years for a reason, which is one fact the GM fanboys just can't stand.
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Originally Posted by RaWarrior
Just look around. How many old (say '90 or earlier) trucks of a brand are still on the road? I see loads of older Ford trucks still around. Sometimes see an older GMC, and rarely ever a Chevy more than 10 years old. Japanese trucks? Never, at least not outside of a junkyard.
Ford has been #1 in sales for 30some years for a reason, which is one fact the GM fanboys just can't stand.
Ford has been #1 in sales for 30some years for a reason, which is one fact the GM fanboys just can't stand.
I also reserve the right to be biased, and also agree with some of Screwtech's points, you try doing every maintenance and repair issue on your truck and come back and tell us it was well-designed and easy to accomplish.
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Been a Ford tech since '92, worked at a Ford/Dodge house since '94. Too me, the seller dealer should of kept the truck and givin him a loaner, bad on their part. A lot of the so called "common problems" I see people list here takes me by surprise. I have never seen a 4.6 or 5.4 blow out an plug except for ones that just been changed by the owner or a corner garage. Done thousands and never had one blow out. Most of the other "common problems" I never seen either and I am in the middle of truck hell around here. The bump felt from the rack is problably an alignment problem, oh well. For now, most of my time is working on 6.0s, lord have mercy on my soul.
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Originally Posted by rdeeno
Been a Ford tech since '92, worked at a Ford/Dodge house since '94. Too me, the seller dealer should of kept the truck and givin him a loaner, bad on their part. A lot of the so called "common problems" I see people list here takes me by surprise. I have never seen a 4.6 or 5.4 blow out an plug except for ones that just been changed by the owner or a corner garage. Done thousands and never had one blow out. Most of the other "common problems" I never seen either and I am in the middle of truck hell around here. The bump felt from the rack is problably an alignment problem, oh well. For now, most of my time is working on 6.0s, lord have mercy on my soul.
Dude, don't EVEN get me started on the whole 6.0 fiasco.......