Is 4.6L Superior to 5.4L
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Originally Posted by jbravo316
Tritonpwr... Your right about some people speaking out of their *** when they repeat crap they heard from some other idiott doing the same thing 
. Remember the guy that said his tuner got him 489 horses from his stock 4.6 with a turbo or supercharger? I believe I saw his numbers on another site, and they were at the crank on a dynojet dyno. I believe under a load, his rear wheel horses were about 266. Wasn't he claiming the 489 was at the rear wheels? What a big difference between the two aint it.
. Remember the guy that said his tuner got him 489 horses from his stock 4.6 with a turbo or supercharger? I believe I saw his numbers on another site, and they were at the crank on a dynojet dyno. I believe under a load, his rear wheel horses were about 266. Wasn't he claiming the 489 was at the rear wheels? What a big difference between the two aint it.and i thought my 28% drivetrain loss was horrendous.
thats a whole different kind of pathetic.
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Yeah, that's what Faster said...
"Originally Posted by Faster150
mu tuner just got 489rwhp out of a stock 4.6L F150 last weekend 10PSI on a T66 turbo.. so yeh lol what do u call a turd?"
That's what prompted my long-winded boost posts.
Yeah, people love to repeat things as fact. I don't know how Faster came up with that, if his tuner told him that, I have no idea why. It's obviously crazy.
I don't know of any place off-hand who can crank-dyno one of these motors. It takes A LOT to do that. You can't just hook up a fuel line and 12vdc and get after it.
"Originally Posted by Faster150
mu tuner just got 489rwhp out of a stock 4.6L F150 last weekend 10PSI on a T66 turbo.. so yeh lol what do u call a turd?"
That's what prompted my long-winded boost posts.
Yeah, people love to repeat things as fact. I don't know how Faster came up with that, if his tuner told him that, I have no idea why. It's obviously crazy.
I don't know of any place off-hand who can crank-dyno one of these motors. It takes A LOT to do that. You can't just hook up a fuel line and 12vdc and get after it.
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And I will tell you right now, the 5.4 I am in the middle of building will smoke the living **** out of Neal's truck. But again, there's a lot more money going into it than even Neal spent on his.
HI!... Yes um, that there is sum funny sh!!t right there ..... golllllie!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Neal
HI!... Yes um, that there is sum funny sh!!t right there ..... golllllie!!!!!
Not to mention I'm building an aluminum block (GT block) DOHC which is a completley different motor.
I think we have two totally different goals. I know you're wanting to go turbo, which I will be right off the bat with an 88mil (S88). I'm not even looking to keep it street worthy. Full sheetmetal intake, air-water intercooler in the passanger seat floor-board, Currie 9", custom 4 link, tubbed, etc.
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Originally Posted by Neal
HI!... Sorry I got mixed up. The ROMEO 4.6 only had a 6 bolt crank not the windsor. But the Windsor 4.6 came with both the 6 bolt and 8 bolt cranks, but the 8 bolt is more common with the Windsor 4.6. All 5.4's have a 8 bolt crank.
Here's some more info :
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb40228.htm
Here's some more info :
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb40228.htm
yeh i know thats what i said
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Originally Posted by tritonpwr
Faster...
You know, h-pipes, balancing tubes, crossover pipes/tubes, whatever you want to call them, they are useless unless they are in the right place, and, well, your's isn't. Frankly, I wouldn't even know where to put one on these goofy *** exhausts, but I do know it wouldn't be there.
You do know how to find where to put it, don't you?
You know, h-pipes, balancing tubes, crossover pipes/tubes, whatever you want to call them, they are useless unless they are in the right place, and, well, your's isn't. Frankly, I wouldn't even know where to put one on these goofy *** exhausts, but I do know it wouldn't be there.
You do know how to find where to put it, don't you?
i put it in there for sound reasons
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Originally Posted by UberDude
ya, and how about when my 5.4 comes standard with the tow and go discount. 
but i do have good news, I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Allstate.
but i do have good news, I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Allstate.
my 4.6 came with a tow package on it and we got the tow n go discount... so yeh its still cheaper hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Originally Posted by JMC
tritonpwr,
I can't argue wit that logic. It makes sense. But the 5.4 is still better than the 4.6.
About the piston slap... I have a friend that works at the Windsor plant. Her son and mine played hockey together on the same team. Apparently Ford has 3 piston sizes. Standard, under and over. The bores are measured on the line and the pistons are set in crates, 4 to a crate. There are two banks, left and right for a total of 8 pistons. Follow me so far? Well for a whole series of engines the banks were reversed and the pistons were put in the wrong holes. Can you say piston slap if an over bore cylinder gets an under sized piston. I asked about the inverse jamming up the piston and she said that the diff was not enough to allow the piston to actually stick.
JMC
I can't argue wit that logic. It makes sense. But the 5.4 is still better than the 4.6.
About the piston slap... I have a friend that works at the Windsor plant. Her son and mine played hockey together on the same team. Apparently Ford has 3 piston sizes. Standard, under and over. The bores are measured on the line and the pistons are set in crates, 4 to a crate. There are two banks, left and right for a total of 8 pistons. Follow me so far? Well for a whole series of engines the banks were reversed and the pistons were put in the wrong holes. Can you say piston slap if an over bore cylinder gets an under sized piston. I asked about the inverse jamming up the piston and she said that the diff was not enough to allow the piston to actually stick.JMC
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Originally Posted by tritonpwr
Well, I'm shooting for 1000-1200rwhp. You?
Not to mention I'm building an aluminum block (GT block) DOHC which is a completley different motor.
I think we have two totally different goals. I know you're wanting to go turbo, which I will be right off the bat with an 88mil (S88). I'm not even looking to keep it street worthy. Full sheetmetal intake, air-water intercooler in the passanger seat floor-board, Currie 9", custom 4 link, tubbed, etc.
Not to mention I'm building an aluminum block (GT block) DOHC which is a completley different motor.
I think we have two totally different goals. I know you're wanting to go turbo, which I will be right off the bat with an 88mil (S88). I'm not even looking to keep it street worthy. Full sheetmetal intake, air-water intercooler in the passanger seat floor-board, Currie 9", custom 4 link, tubbed, etc.
im just gonna go all out and get vtec for mine and be done with it..
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Originally Posted by Faster150
my 4.6 came with a tow package on it and we got the tow n go discount... so yeh its still cheaper hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
thats hillarious. considering that not even the 04+ models can tow over 7200 lbs with the 4.6
i doubt that yours can handle much more over 6800
please stop comparing your PoS 4.6 to my 3V 5.4
DOES your 4.6 HAVE any OF this?
YOU KNOW WHAT a STOCK 4.6 MIGHT be peppier then my STOCK 5.4 but guess what!? my STOCK 5.4 will move 9,500lbs ALOT quicker and ALOT easier then your 4.6 COULD EVER DREAM of doing.
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Can you stick THIS.... up your butt and sing Yankee-Doodle? Then I guess it's not quite as useful as you thought, eh?
I have a couple 5.4 with 4 valves (OMG!) so I pee on you!
I like to sprinkle 3v 5.4's on my raisin bran for that extra crunch.
Nanny nanny booo booo, your trucks a slow little turd, you eat worms, and your momma wears army boots!
up your butt and sing Yankee-Doodle? Then I guess it's not quite as useful as you thought, eh?I have a couple 5.4 with 4 valves (OMG!) so I pee on you!
I like to sprinkle 3v 5.4's on my raisin bran for that extra crunch.
Nanny nanny booo booo, your trucks a slow little turd, you eat worms, and your momma wears army boots!
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Originally Posted by tritonpwr
I have a couple 5.4 with 4 valves (OMG!) so I pee on you!
Originally Posted by tritonpwr
Pay other people? I do ALL of my own work. The ONLY stuff I farm out is race engines, and body work, THAT'S IT! At that's only because there's a HUGE f**king difference between a little tiny a$$ V8 cranking 300hp and a race motor that has to survive 1000+ hp, and I don't have a paint booth. I rebuild ALL my of my engines, do ALL of my service, do EVERY single f**king mod on every car/truck I own.
Originally Posted by Neal
HI!... 21.3MPG here on the highway and I have 430H.P (flywheel), 4.10 GEARS, 28 inch tall tires...................BTW it's a 5.4! LOL!
". Guess I'm in a different league than ya'll...
Originally Posted by tritonpwr
Faster...
You know, h-pipes, balancing tubes, crossover pipes/tubes, whatever you want to call them, they are useless unless they are in the right place, and, well, your's isn't. Frankly, I wouldn't even know where to put one on these goofy *** exhausts, but I do know it wouldn't be there.
You do know how to find where to put it, don't you?
You know, h-pipes, balancing tubes, crossover pipes/tubes, whatever you want to call them, they are useless unless they are in the right place, and, well, your's isn't. Frankly, I wouldn't even know where to put one on these goofy *** exhausts, but I do know it wouldn't be there.
You do know how to find where to put it, don't you?
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Originally Posted by Faster150
hey atleast his 5.4 is still operational on all 8 cylinders. no 5.4 7 cylinder hybrids
