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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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It only matters in the racing forum.
True, but I prefer the driver mod over the current choices of engine
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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I have 3.73 gears. He has 3.51. That will MORE than make up for my tires that are 3 percent larger than stock.

My truck has more RWHP, lower gearing and a broader spread of power near peak HP.

I'm not worried.
he has 3.55. you should look at the dyno again. i had mentioned this before, different time of year, in some spots a 20 degree difference, humidity was higher, etc. i could account for the 5 hp diff with just that. plus the 4.6 graph is on a different spectrum than the 5.4. n-e-way, i wouldnt care about that. look at the fact he has a much better bottom end and you dont make your strong suite untill 4200 and 5 hp more doesnt help you catch up. 5 hp more doesnt jet you past! 2" taller tire, lower tq and 3.73 will not help. your 4x4 supercab prob ways as much as his 2wd crew. a transfer case and front axle will sooo offset your 110 lbs lighter engine. you should be worried.


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Im not afraid to race a 5.4 in my V6 besides thats old new, I got a V8. 4.6 2V
dude, really. v6 vs 5.4. good to know your in the right realm of engine now. jk.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Well I have raced quite a few. Stock 2004 F150 5.4 SuperCab 4x4 I can beat. Just to let you know.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Well I have raced quite a few. Stock 2004 F150 5.4 SuperCab 4x4 I can beat. Just to let you know.
lol, are you sure they were racing? maybe thats why they gave you the wierd looking face when you buzzed by. jk man.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 05crewzer
he has 3.55. you should look at the dyno again. i had mentioned this before, different time of year, in some spots a 20 degree difference, humidity was higher, etc. i could account for the 5 hp diff with just that.
You don't know much about Dynojets, do you? They are corrected for temperature, humidity and barometric pressure using standardized formulas that work quite well.

plus the 4.6 graph is on a different spectrum than the 5.4. n-e-way, i wouldnt care about that.
Do you mean the Dynojet graphs are plotted with different scales on the y-axis? Who cares?

look at the fact he has a much better bottom end and you dont make your strong suite untill 4200 and 5 hp more doesnt help you catch up. 5 hp more doesnt jet you past!
You don't understand gearing then. The 4.6L 3V has 6 speeds, he only has 4 speeds. 2nd gear in my truck is about equal to 1st gear in his. With the 3.73 gears I'll be shifting from 1st to 2nd before you can say "lickity split" and I'll be to 4000 rpms before you can say "lickity". From then on the little 4.6L short stroke will never leave it's broad spread of peak power. In first gear I'm traction limited, not torque limited, so it doesn't matter anyway. I hope I am getting through to you because you are sounding more and more like you don't know what you are talking about.

2" taller tire, lower tq and 3.73 will not help. your 4x4 supercab prob ways as much as his 2wd crew. a transfer case and front axle will sooo offset your 110 lbs lighter engine. you should be worried.
No, his 2004 Crewcab 2wd has about the same curb weight as my 2010 SuperCab XLT 4x4 with the 4.6L 3V. So I'm not worried.

I'm sorry the news that the 4.6L 3V makes more power and has a broader spread of power is such painful news but the dyno doesn't lie.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 05:02 AM
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HI!... I looked around quickly on the web and from what I found a 2004 F-150 Crewcab, 4x2, 5.4L, auto has a curb weight of 4644LBS. A 2010 SuperCab, XLT, 4x4, 4.6L, has a curb weight 5385LBS. So there's almost a 750LB weight difference.

I agree that a 4.6L equipped with a 6-speed auto will have a advantage over a 5.4L with only a 4 speed auto. My 2007 Ranger has a 5-speed auto (5R55E). If you manually shift it, it will not give you the gear in between 1st and 2nd gear. So it shifts like a 4 speed auto with the same gearing. I tried this at the drag strip several times. The truck goes almost 1 second slower in the 1/4 mile with out using the benefit of the 5-speed.

As for the SUPERCHIP dyno #'s, if you notice they are using STD (Standard), not SAE which is the norm in recording dyno #'s. This will not effect the #'s between the 4.6L and the 5.4L but will enlarge the base dyno #'s slightly.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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The 04 super crews weigh in to almost 5600 lbs Neal. You must be looking at a Heritage. Real's trucks does have the advantage and IMO, will win. You two need to race each other.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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I'd like to race "real" with my 5.4 and 4 speed auto...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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I'd like to race "real" with my 5.4 and 4 speed auto...
me too
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 05crewzer
lol, are you sure they were racing? maybe thats why they gave you the wierd looking face when you buzzed by. jk man.
Yeah im sure cause it was someone at my school. LEts just say they didn't say anything about how my truck was a P.O.S. V6.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Real's trucks does have the advantage and IMO, will win. You two need to race each other.
You're right! The thing is, this isn't a brag, I mean my truck is right off the show room floor except for some new tires. Anyone can buy the same thing for less than a new 5.4L.

I find it very telling that the offers to race come from those who have a 17% displacement advantage AND who have spent a bunch of money on go fast mods and custom tunes! LOL! It would be hillarious if it were not so pitiful.

Can't we all just have cyber beer and agree to, well, to agree?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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I think somebody is scared


and I guarantee fatherford and I have less in our trucks than "real" does
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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You both have superchargers. The thought of "Ali vs Retarded Burger King guy" comes to mind.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
You both have superchargers. The thought of "Ali vs Retarded Burger King guy" comes to mind.
He does not have a S/C on his Expy though.
 
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