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Old 12-18-2012, 01:30 PM
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In my opinion, yes, there should be better control on firearms, but honestly why would you classify an AR-15 as a destructive device? why not my little ruger 10/22, or my pocket knife?
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:26 PM
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You've hit on just one of the many reasons why to fight this ban. The anti-gunners won't stop with banning just the AR-15. They'll include everything that they can get on the list! The last time that they banned assault weapons" it even included things like the Henry .22 caliber reproduction of the 1860s lever action Winchester rifle. A rifle and a caliber that has never been used by any military!

It's also interesting that the anti-gunners are howling about "military style" weapons and they're claiming that those were never envisioned by the founding fathers when they wrote the 2nd Amendment. However when the founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment, THE military rifles of the day were the Pennsylvania style long rifle and the British Brawn Bess musket and the founding fathers never attempted to exclude those from the 2nd Amendment! That's pretty good evidence to me that the founding fathers meant to include ALL guns in the 2nd amendment including "military" ones!
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1997 lariat 4.6
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In my opinion, yes, there should be better control on firearms, but honestly why would you classify an AR-15 as a destructive device? why not my little ruger 10/22, or my pocket knife?
Fixed the link....

I totally agree.....
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:45 PM
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thanks 88, yea it's ridiculous...
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:52 PM
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It's ridiculous because anything that they do with gun control will just pose more restrictions on thoes of us who lawfully possess firearms. It does nothing for the people who possess them illegally.

As with many topics in this country, if they would just properly enforce the laws that they've already enacted, we'd all be better off. They aren't really interested in protecting the citizens. They are only interested in having as much power as they possibly can have.

The Founding Fathers knew what they were talking about. We should all be wary of the encroachment of the federal government.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:08 PM
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Facts are facts:

The fact is, a criminal stole some guns, used those guns in a crime, and then used one of the stolen guns to kill himself. He tried to buy a gun, and was denied, so the laws worked as they were supposed to work.

Where are the protesters picketing out in Hollywood about the movies that depict violence as being cool. Why aren't the legislatures drafting laws to control the violence in movies? Why isn't there an outcry for Hollywood to be controlled?? How many people did Bruce Willis kill?? How about James Bond?

Second point, where is the outcry to stop the gaming industry? First there was donkey kong, and then from there, it went down hill to more and more violent games. I watch my grandson kill hundreds of "bad guys" on video games. These games sentionalize the killing and make it almost heroic when he does. Stop the gaming industry.

Where were the mental health specialist who knew something was wrong but yet fail to act to label these kid as dangerous before they go off the deep end. Stop developing young killers who don't know the difference between realality and fiction.

The gun is not the problem, there are underlaying problems causing so much violence.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:17 PM
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In actuality, the problem seems to be that having and enforcing gun laws does nothing to prevent people who LEGALLY own guns from MISUSING them.

I don't know that any of the weapons that have been misused in mass killings over recent years were illegally obtained. I may be wrong, and if I am, I know I'll be corrected, but to me the real problem is in the mind of the holder of the weapon. That is where the control needs to be.

Now, how do we exert this control? None of the proposed laws I'm reading about will do this.

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Old 12-18-2012, 07:32 PM
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I don't live in the US but, I love guns as much as the next guy and if assault weapons get banned I won't loose any sleep. I'm on the fence about hand guns. I don't see how banning long clips are going to solve anything since it only takes one bullet to kill.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:44 PM
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The gun-haters will take every chance available to them to assist in changing the 2nd Amendment. End result would be playing right into the UN's plan to disarm all civilians.
UN equals One World Government. Soon coming to a Country/town near you!
Wait a minute.....isn't that what major dictators have done? Mussolini/Cesar/Napoleon/Hitler/Stalin etc.etc.
Don't agree to any changes and dig in your heels. If you give an inch, you'll loose in the end.

Those that haven't learned from the past, will have to live it again.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Arctic Cat F7
I don't live in the US but, I love guns as much as the next guy and if assault weapons get banned I won't loose any sleep. I'm on the fence about hand guns. I don't see how banning long clips are going to solve anything since it only takes one bullet to kill.
Sounds to me like you favor gun control but like to have long clips.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:54 PM
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Sounds to me like you favor gun control but like to have long clips.
I have no problem with gun control but the sale of assault like weapons to the general public doesn't make much sense? As I said in my previous post I love guns but some guns are just trouble in the making.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:37 PM
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I have no problem with gun control but the sale of assault like weapons to the general public doesn't make much sense? As I said in my previous post I love guns but some guns are just trouble in the making.

I don't need a gun. My neighbor has plenty. He doesn't mess with me and the bad guys don't mess with him. And if anyone ever does mess with me, he's got my back... If anybody needs me, I'll be drinking beer and playing hockey.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
...I don't know that any of the weapons that have been misused in mass killings over recent years were illegally obtained. I may be wrong, and if I am, I know I'll be corrected, but to me the real problem is in the mind of the holder of the weapon. That is where the control needs to be...
The guy in CT was under 21 therefore it was illegal for him to own or buy ammo for a pistol. He died with 2 in his possession. He took the weapons from his mother after he murdered her because he was denied purchasing a rifle. How much more illegal can it be?
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
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I don't know that any of the weapons that have been misused in mass killings over recent years were illegally obtained. I may be wrong, and if I am, I know I'll be corrected, ...<snip>...
Beltway snipers.
Malvo was a minor
Muhammad had a criminal record

Both of them could not legally purchase or own a weapon.
 
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:25 PM
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My 8mm Mauser will do a heck of a lot more damage than my AR, but by all means..it doesn't looks scary....
 



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