Okay, I made the mistake of buying a car alarm off of ebay and then coming to the realization that I'd have to install it myself.... Well I've ran into a few problems. I bought the Autopage RS-750lcd. Firstly, my remote start won't work.

I have connected the:
Remote Start Power (1 and 2)
The Starter Output,
The Ignition1,
and the ACC/Heater Output.

The wires I'm curious if I need are:
the Negative Safety Shutdown Input
Remote safety switch
positive safety shut down input
and the negative/positive Door pin triggers...

none of that is installed but I was under the understanding that even without that installed my remote start should be working... any ideas?

Also I another wiring harness for keyless entry... but can't find the wires I need to tap into. I have the factory keyless entry...

Could you guys help me out here and get the nightmare over?

 

Negative safety shutdown - meant to prevent RS from starting IF it's grounded. Used in conjunction with mercury switches or pin switches under the hood(if open). If you ground this wire, it WON"T start.

The door pin triggers. - Only need to use one of them, depending if the door wires are + or -...

Positive safety shutdown - same as negative shutdown, never seen one on a RS before, i'd cap it off or cut it. I bet a 12V input disables the RS.


I have no idea what the Remote safety switch is - is it a wire or a toggle switch? If its a toggle, it probably enables/disables the remote start... used if you park cars in garages with no ventilation... basically turns the remote start ability on or off. Could be used for programming too.

PS... You'll want to hook up ign 2 and maybe acc 2 to get all the other things to work like heater and Air Conditioning... I'll look into this comment though to double check cuz i think theres even a 3rd ignition that'll trigger a CEL if it isn't activated while the trucks remote started.

 

Does the starter activate?

 

I had my alarm installed, and they had to put in a PATS bypass module. This module bypasses the Passive Anti Theft System that requires you to use a key with a recognized "chip" in it, or else it won't start. Call the manufacturer, or a local shop, and ask tehm about this unit. I think there are a couple of options when dealing with this......

 

This isn't anything that happens when I go to press the remote start button. The only things that I can do right now are that I can set it off manually (Panic) and if I arm it and try to start my truck the alarm goes off...

There's another harness... the "Output Connection" it contains:

200mA Ignition 3 Control Output
200mA Channel 2 Programmable Output
200mA Programmable Output (Factory Security Disarm Signal Output)
500mA Grounded output when armed
200mA Dome Light Controll Output
200mA Programmable Output (Factory Security Rearm Signal Output)

I'm getting ready to go to work... if someone wants to chat about this sometime we can set up a meeting (it'd be quite helpful) Thanks for the fast reply's guys!

 

PATS isn't an issue yet. The remote start should still attempt to start w/o the pats fix...

What about a neutral safety wire? What about voltage sense or Tach wire. Did you hook up the tach? Was it programmed? If you didn't use the tach, did you tell the alarm you are using voltage sense?

Those are my first guesses why it won't try to crank...

 

What kind of Key do you have. Is it a good sized key with a big head "hee hee I said head" if so, that's bad news(more $$) if it's a slim head you shouldn't need to worry about PATS

 

Ok, did some checking,

Your door wires are negative trigger - so that should help you out on which alarm wire to use. There are two you need to catch, one for each door, and make sure to diode isolate both of them, iff not you'll get false alarms after about 30 minutes of being armed.
If you have keyless entry from the factory your locks are negative, and it's the easy hookup if not....

Your locks are 5 wire. You have to cut both and install relays inbetween - unless they are built into your alarm. Double check.

 

no one has mentioned your tach sense wire. Hooked up??

 

The tachwire is hooked up... properly to my knowledge... And I have the keyless entry with the "big head" So... yeah... there is a five wire harness that I have to cut through on the door locks? It came with some kind of wiring thing that looked to have a relay on it, and it was to hook up to the door locks, I just was hoping that I wouldn't have to mess with it because that's just makes things MORE complicated...

I might NEVER get this thing installed!

 

You have keyless entry?? Yes?! That's good, you won't need the 5 wire. You just wire it up with a negative trigger, you can use the low current outputs off the alarm(if it has them) and hook them directly to the lock and unlock wires. The hardest part about it is getting up high above the pedals along the firewall with your tools. I hated that part the most about installing the systems on F150's.


Did you get the starter to engage yet?

 

The starter still isn't working, but I haven't had time to actually go out and mess around with it... Thursday is when I'll look over the wiring and everything... so with the keyless entry I just have to tap into BOTH negative wires? Or will I only tap into one? Also does that mean I still need to bypass PATS? I have the big headed key so I have PATS. And ANY ideas on the remote start? I don't need to hook up any of those safety features just as long as they're not grounded correct?

Sorry that I have so many questions...

Frostby do you have Yahoo Messenger by chance?

Thanks

 

did you do your tach learn procedure? If you have PATS you will need a bypass module and another key...

 

I did not do the tach learn precedure... I wasn't even aware of this... I assume that that will all be covered in my operators manuel?

 

No don't have Yahoo, or any messenger...

I looked for a wiring diagram of your remote start and was only able to find the operators manual... that won't help much. Can you get me a copy of the wiring diagram. I will be able to answer ANY question you have from that.


DON"T WORRY ABOUT PATS... yet. At some point you will have to deal with it, but you need to find out why the starter/relay is not engaging.

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Okay, i found an install manual for an 850 hope its similar to your 750... ask away...

To get the remote start to work here's the conditions to be met
White/black = cap it off for now
Black/white = GROUND IT
White/Green =CAP IT OFF
Violet =CAP IT OFF
White/Blue = cap it off for now...
Green = right now, it doesn't matter (door open/close)