That Blower is eating it's self up!!! All those scratches and
the paint missing of the case tells me it is way tight. If they
want it that tight they need to use nylon whips on the ROTORS!

I can belive they can't see that!

JEFF

 

Don,
Sorry to hear about the trouble. Weren't you one of the first with a Works? Sure would be interesting to know if there have been any changes to the bearing packs since yours was manufactured, maybe they changed vendors or proceedures. Magnuson isn't showing many smarts in the situation though. JDM, Works and Magnuson should split the rebuild costs and write it off to customer relations then everyone saves face, no blame attached.

 

Don was not one of the first to have the Works 112 kit. I had mine months before Don got his kit, and two other customers had their kits on and running before Don got his as well. The difference between Don's kit and the rest of the Works kits is that none of the other kits were altered or dismantled by the installer, they were just installed as is, as shipped by Works.

 

I am one of those customers that had the Works112 kit on well before Don.

I have had ZERO problems with my blower, but then again, as Sal stated, my installer didn't dis-mantle the blower prior to installing it. My installer also didn't cut-up and grind the intake casting. I, too, have seen the pictures.

I find it interesting that the only blower that has had issues is the one that has been dismantled, cut-up and ground on.

Granted, the hoses on the passenger side are a tight fit, but all the other kits have been installed this way with no problems.

FYI- I took my blower off the truck after about 5,000-6,000 miles just to take a look at it and my rotors have almost NO marks on them. It is quite obvious that the blower in the pictures above has had some serious material running through it.

My .02.

-Dale

 

If the rotors were out of the case, then that means a lot
of clearance need to be set. case an end plates are pinned
but you would still need to check( rotors to case rotors to end plate so on so on) it will move settings.


That sucks!!

Jeff

 

They had to dis mantle my blower to make it fit. Look at the clearance between the blower and the firewall . Being that mine sat so far back some modification was neccisarry.

Ask Tellemeca what I finally had to do to get it to clear the firewall.






Also if I had ingested some debris shouldn't it have self distructed fairly quickly. In my case it took 3 months of slowlly getting worse for me to take it off and send it into magnuson.

 

Don, give it up! Havn't you read the posts of those satisfied magnuson customers? You must be the responsible party here. Pay the $$$ and keep quiet! j/k

 

hehe, LOL

 

There is no reason that intake should have come off that blower. There is no reason that blower ever had to come apart. There is no reason that blower should have ever been installed other than it was designed to be. We all had to "clearance" our early 112 kits for the firewall. I ground my prototype intake in a grassy field with an electric grinder at a GA track when Works FedExed it to me at the track. I didn't have to remove the intake.

The fact is your kit was altered, taken apart, installed other than designed, and your bypass was not adjusted properly from day one. Nobody else with a 112 kit did this, and nobody else but you had problems.

Since you seem to like to show pics of what you are blaming Magnuson for, here's a picture that's not been shown yet:



This is a picture of how your intake wasn't resealed properly, and you can even see oil residue from where oil has seeped past the poorly sealed intake. Oh yeah, and there's lots of "non-factory" metal shavings there too.

 

I find it amazing that cutting a steel tube that is attached to the upper manifold would have anything to do with the rotor pack clearance on the case. This tube I cut is for the PCV system. I cut it for purely cosmetics and was perfectly cleaned before we put it on.

Sal,

You surprise me by trying to blame it on the install. When you were at the tuner shootout you showed up there with your stock Eaton supercharger on your truck. Which I was kind of surprised because you said all your MPH came from the Works blower. When you were asked why you didn't have the blower on you told everybody that the rotor packs were hitting the case so you took it off. There are a lot of witnesses that could testify to that statement including one of the magazine writers.

Your statement about running such good MPH was also thrown out of the window because with your same setup and stock Eaton blower you had quite a bit more MPH. The Magnuson blower does not have half the bracing that the stock Eaton has therefore it cannot handle the load because the discharge opening is much larger on the Magnuson, it goes from the front of the impellers to the back of the impellers. It just simply cannot handle the RPM's that the stock Eaton can handle.

In Don's case it might of been that the impeller clearence was just to tight. If there was some shavings or dirt in there it would have scratched the rotors, not leave massive heat marks on the case. I'll prove my point, how many people have posted pictures of their stock rotor packs when the coating came off, those big flakes of a harden coating did not generate heat marks on the outside of the case.

As I see it Don made a post about his Magnuson blower and not being happy with the service he received from Magnuson and a couple of you guys got on here trying to blame it on Don or the installer. The fact is Don just got off the phone with Magnuson and they said it's most likely the blower was spun to fast.

Lord knows I took my lumps and bruses on some of my products. I would've never gotten involved in this if you didn't bring me into this. We should've analyzed this to find out if this would be a problem with all of the Magnuson blowers or just an isolated incident with your's and Don's blower.

BTW- Sal show pictures of the whole blower because that is probally a picture of yours. I want to see the rotor packs on that.

Jim@JDM

 

It is funny how everyone except me has pictures of my blower. I still haven't gotten a single picture of the blower since I sent it back.

I just got off the phone with Ed Tresbeck from Magnuson. He told me after further inspection that they could not tell that it had ingested anything. He told me it looked like it had been severly overspun, because of that the rotors made contact with the housing. This is what they beleive caused the damage.

They have agreed to reduce the rebuild to $500.00 so I am going to have it fixed and I am sure the new one will do the same thing. After all the stock eaton has many more miles running oversized pulleys. 24,000 miles with 4 extra lbs of boost, and 14,000 miles running 8 extra lbs of boost. The Magnuson lasted 3000 miles.

 

Didn't Sal post that he had overspun his blower much more than you ever did? "Well, my Works 112 has been through WAY more boost and torture than yours has Don, and it's perfectly fine. So are the other 112s that are on trucks."So it must be a quality control problem. Sal overspun his and nothing happened, while you overspun yours and it fails. Seems obvious to me.

 

Jim, you are so full of crap it's not even funny. In your usual fashion you are posting lies hoping people will believe you. I NEVER said anything related to taking my blower off because I was having any problems with it. I took it off before NMRA because I sent the intake back to Works to be converted for the Whipple. Nobody asked me why I didn't have my Works blower on at the Shootout. And I openly said I was running an extra 100hp of nitrous to compensate for the stock Eaton at only 14 psi. I have no clue where you came up with any of what you just said. You must sit home at night thinking this stuff up. My MP112 has worked flawlessly since day one, and my rotors don't have ONE scratch on them, they look exactly the same as the day I got the blower. I've run close to 19 psi on my Works 112 and never had one problem with it "not being able to handle the RPMs".

I also didn't say anything about you or mention your name. All I did was present the facts. Don's kit was altered, taken apart, and he had bypass adjustment problems. Nobody else's kit had these issues and everyone else's kits are still working great. I was just defending the manufacturer in what I felt was an unfair accusation of a failed part, and a part in a kit I'm proud to sell. Appartently you've got a bit of a guilty concience.

As for your picture comment, that is a picture of Don's blower sent to me by Works. It can't be mine because I don't have an intake casting right now.

 

Sal you are 100% correct on that one. Yes my boost bipass was not adjusted properly from day one. What you didn't say was there was no way it could have been adjusted properly. Even with us modifing the bracket on the drivers side that holds all the little vacuum and electrical accesories, it could not be adjusted properlly.

Here is a pic


After a while I got a new cam that goes on the end of the Boost Bipass Actuator, that allwaed me to reposition the actuator. Once I got the new peice I was able to adjust the bipass properly, but by then I guess the damage was done.

Here is a pic of the modifield actator

 

Why not? That's how my kit is as well and the other kits out there, and nobody else had problems.