Dave King & JL,

With your heads up class rules you are limiting your self to three maybe four participants.
As a new class (Lightning Heads Up) you would like to see it grow.
As it grows then you can make the necessary rule changes to power adders, weight, pulley sizes, etc...


To me a Heads Up class is run what you brung.
There should be no rule change to what that means.

Lets say this is JL truck
Lets say your truck weights 3900 LBS.,
Lets say you are running a Kenny Bell supercharger.
Lets say you are running 20 LBS. of boost.
Lets say you have alot more experience on .400 tree.

Now lets say this is Sal's truck
Now lets say truck weighs 4800 LBS.
Now lets say stock supercharger.
Now lets say 12 LBS. of boost.
Now lets say a 200 shot NOS
Now lets say not as much experience on .400 tree.


On average every hundrad pounds of weight is a 10th.
That's min. eight 10ths


20 LBS. vs 12 LBS.
That's min. four 10ths

Pro tree experience, if it was me, my average is high 6's.
That's a min. of 2 1/2 10ths.

For a total of 1.4 1/2

A 200 shot of NOS is about that.

If you limit the competition, in my eyes I already know who won.
So why should I go.

Now I would show up to see who has the badest truck weather it be 25 LBS. of boost or 350 shot of NOS.

What would make this exsiting is to see who is braking new ground.
After all exsitment is what attracts the fans.

As a promotor do you think it is a smart idea to have two of your sponsors doing this.

Jim@JDM

 

I would pay money to see this!!!!!!!!:o

 

What Bill & Jim said.

IMO, the main reason there is no Heads-up class for Mod Motor at FFW is because there haven't been enough mods (including internal mods) to break it down into smaller classes the way the 5.0 classes are set up. Much Like the Gen II L's. But if it is going to heads up to see who is the fastest, all the available mods should be allowed.

It doesn't seem like much research was done (at least not in the L community) on what rules should be used.

So far, the majority are in favor of an open comp heads-up class. Including 2 of the big three tuners.

 

Amen

 

I don't think there will be many people running the heads up with the rules now in place, and I don't think there will be many running with the rules most are suggesting. I'm with Keith, I'd want to see the quickest Lightning. This gives the tuners 5 months to make their trucks quick and light. He who goes the fastest will sell the most stuff.

 

Thor01
When I spray I leave on the spray, all of it and the 1.6's 60 ft times speak for themselves. Large pulleys are not leave just as hard as I do. It doesn't take any skill to launce a 11 sec Lightning but it does take skill to time a .400 tree. Lets just line them up and see who comes out on top. It won't be the quickest Lightning but it will be a well tuned, balanced, and setup truck and driver that wins. It happens all the time with the Pro's, quickest isn't always 1st.

 

1BADTK,
I hear what you are saying! When do you hit the N20. Do you have it set up that when the pedal hits the floor it's on. Or do you cut your light, get the truck rolling then initiate the juice?

I know a few people that have it, (I razz them also) they hit the juice after cutting the light and rolling to keep from burning up the tires. That is my point. It takes skill to launch 550hp and keep the tires under it. Skill is measured by the ability to cut a good light and launch the vehicle without burning up the tires the first 25'. I agree, being the first off the light doesn't mean your will be first through the traps.

I also agree with easterisland. The tuners are going to have an advantage over the rest of the field. They can make changes to their programs during test runs. They can compensate for the air temp, humidity and bp.

They could also run parts that are in the experimental stages that are not out yet. I don't think that will be the case. All the tuners have helped people set up their trucks at the track and at their expense. That's the nature of this bus.

I'm just old fashioned about the use of N20 i guess. To each their own and i respaect that. Just not in competition.

Just watching the match up would be worth the trip.

 

hmm, If N2O is being used, i guess we all know who is going home a little richer, why waste $65? Just my opinion...

I won't be running anyway, i'll avoid the embarrassment...but i will be there to watch

 

When I leave the nitrous is SPRAYING, my throttle switch is set to come on before WOT, this took a little practice on the street to get it set right, which is what I mean by the truck and driver being setup right. Whether spraying a 50 shot or a 100 shot its all there as I launch, with little or no tire spin.
BUT!
As I said the quickest won't win this event........ To many variables for each truck. Someone will Red Light others will spin, and others will miss, or blow a motor.

 

JDM has inquired about doing a match race against Johnny Lightning and Sal at the shootout.

 

Sal has been a great supporter of the Modular Shootout when noone else did, but this statement is not true. We have never allowed Nitrous into the heads up Lightning class's the past 2 years.

 

It wont take low 11's to win. Has anyone broke into the 11's period without NOS? If so, I know its not by much.

 

I really don't know the answer out of this. Heres the bottom line. I want to do something special for the Lightning trucks that FFW doesn't.

Sal has an open comp class, JL has a heads up class. JDM wants to race both of these guys in a match race.

So heres the bottom line.

Here is what I propose.

3 classes.

One open comp - So that everyone has a chance to compete. Slow cars can race and win a very decent amount of money.

One heads up class - Take a vote on how it should be done. Just be aware that if the trucks want a vote in this you gotta step up and preregister. If you want a say in this, you gotta be willing to show up. I learned this lesson last year on the Mustang side. Many people complained and wanted rule changes and then when we changed them noone showed. Bottom line WALK THE TALK. Everyone that votes, gotta step up to the plate and race. No keyboard racers here. JL, SAL, and JDM can't race this class. That gives more racers the opportunity to be even more competetive. This is JL's class and I'll back whatever he wants to do.

One "KING OF THE HILL" class with just JL, Sal, and JDM. Again you guys decide how you want to do it. JDM if you want to put the money up for this do it. That way all 3 major vendors have coverage and an interest in the event. I personally want to see these 3 guys get it on. Run what you brung and hope its enough.

This way, the slower cars can race and win, you have heads up racing via a vote from the majority, and you got the 3 baddest trucks going for the vugular.

This is my best solution that I see here. Sal's been helping me promote this race since day 1, JL has been very helpful and committed to making it work, JDM seems like he wants to be involved as well.

This is my best solution.

It is now in the hands of all you Lightning racers. I"m game if you are.

Dave

 

Dave,

I am pretty sure JDM will be in Richmond that weekend since he is involved with the FFW stuff right?

 

I have yet to talk to JDM. I was contacted by John Mihovetz who said that JDM inquired about wanting to do a match race between him, Sal, and JL.

If so, lets step up to the plate and get it done.