Lightning vs syclone/typhoon??
I don't believe anyone said anything about 8 year old dakotas. The debate was about new trucks, namely the R/t 5.9. Anybody can build an older vehicle, change engines, etc. the truth is the NEW R/T 5.9's are dogs period. there is a first gen L for you, in the 7's if you want to talk major mods. I spent $425 in mods to run a 13.15. which is a whole lot less than your mods! Name 1 dakota that can run with me for $425 in mods, zero. we are talking about apples & oranges here, not the same is it. Dodge would do better to drop the 5.9 and hop up the 4.7. It's a far better engine.
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2000 Black L #2189. Airaid & Superchip R9. Drag Results: Best ET: 13.15 @ 103.09 Best R/T .501 (twice) Best 60' 1.90 on F1's 1973 Cutlass Supreme 455/450HP 4 speed. Too many Mods to list! 95 Olds Aurora 91 S10 305TPI/700r4 project 2000 freightliner FL60 Rollback tow truck 1989 Ford F450 Wrecker My garage overuneth
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2000 Black L #2189. Airaid & Superchip R9. Drag Results: Best ET: 13.15 @ 103.09 Best R/T .501 (twice) Best 60' 1.90 on F1's 1973 Cutlass Supreme 455/450HP 4 speed. Too many Mods to list! 95 Olds Aurora 91 S10 305TPI/700r4 project 2000 freightliner FL60 Rollback tow truck 1989 Ford F450 Wrecker My garage overuneth
When your making my kind of power, you always have a trailer.
My friend and I ride around in his nine second buick all the time, and he still gets pretty good gas mileage. Most other manufacturers don't need to be trailered as soon as they have broken into the 11's or 12's.
and your proud to be a trailor queen?
there are plenty of trailer queen Ls runnin 8s
Hey dik head what does "don't sing it just bring it" mean
I don't believe anyone said anything about 8 year old dakotas. The debate was about new trucks, namely the R/t 5.9. Anybody can build an older vehicle, change engines, etc. the truth is the NEW R/T 5.9's are dogs period.
Name 1 dakota that can run with me for $425 in mods, zero. we are talking about apples & oranges here, not the same is it.
My friend and I ride around in his nine second buick all the time, and he still gets pretty good gas mileage. Most other manufacturers don't need to be trailered as soon as they have broken into the 11's or 12's.
I've been reall enjoying myself,gentleman. Keep talking,I'll keep reloading.

and your proud to be a trailor queen?
there are plenty of trailer queen Ls runnin 8s
Hey dik head what does "don't sing it just bring it" mean
I don't believe anyone said anything about 8 year old dakotas. The debate was about new trucks, namely the R/t 5.9. Anybody can build an older vehicle, change engines, etc. the truth is the NEW R/T 5.9's are dogs period.
Name 1 dakota that can run with me for $425 in mods, zero. we are talking about apples & oranges here, not the same is it.
My friend and I ride around in his nine second buick all the time, and he still gets pretty good gas mileage. Most other manufacturers don't need to be trailered as soon as they have broken into the 11's or 12's.
I've been reall enjoying myself,gentleman. Keep talking,I'll keep reloading.

Second Gen Lightning is the fastest production truck ever made.
All you sy/ty & r/t guys need to admit it.
Bone stock off the showroom floor with no mods, neither the sy/ty or the R/T can do 140 mph.
sy/ty's were the quickest trucks of all time.
BUT the 99+ lightning is the FASTEST!!
Right now with the mods i have ill put my 0-60 up against your sy/ty ,R/T dudes rides ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
one bad dakota,
you obviously didnt see the flag i was flying..well here it is again.because you are full of it.
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All you sy/ty & r/t guys need to admit it.
Bone stock off the showroom floor with no mods, neither the sy/ty or the R/T can do 140 mph.
sy/ty's were the quickest trucks of all time.
BUT the 99+ lightning is the FASTEST!!
Right now with the mods i have ill put my 0-60 up against your sy/ty ,R/T dudes rides ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
one bad dakota,
you obviously didnt see the flag i was flying..well here it is again.because you are full of it.
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Where's the BS? I called you out and YOU respond with some cheesy animation.Go back to your Nintendo.
Blu,
What was taken out of context? I see your still responding with personal attacks. I prefer to respond with substance.
It's so much more gratifying.
Some of you guys need to shed that blind brand loyalty thing. It's so liberating.
Blu,
What was taken out of context? I see your still responding with personal attacks. I prefer to respond with substance.
It's so much more gratifying.Some of you guys need to shed that blind brand loyalty thing. It's so liberating.
I can't believe I'm taking smack from a Typhoon owner.
As for bringing a trailer for the Buick, no he doesn't and so far it hasn't been a problem. If he were ever to break down at the track, a quick $35 will get him a tow back home. What a difference a reliable vehicle makes.
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how do you know?where is the timeslip????

Secondly, the new Lightnings are too COST prohibitive to make really fast. Modulars are hard to work on and parts will be few and at a premium. The power it takes to move a truck that heavy will lead to parts breakage. You can make rice fast to,but at what cost.
What a difference a reliable brand makes.
*will talk later*
Since this has turned into a discussion about highly modified vehicles (aftermarket heads, cam, intake, exhaust, etc) which hardly resemble their stock likeness...
If you build it RIGHT you might not need a trailer to go racing.
1 BAD DAK is correct in that you don't run stock driveline parts once you start making some serious power. However, once you get the right parts, making it a trailer-baby isn't always mandatory.
Take my LX for example (Jan. '00 Super Ford)... 22mpg on the highway, driven to and from the track 80 miles one-way, take drag radials off, bolt on slicks, race, put drag radials back on and drive home at 70-75mph on the highway...yes, I have overdrive.
Sure, there's a chance I could break my built up driveline. I don't discount that. But, that doesn't mean I absolutely have to have a trailer to go racing. My choice.
You CAN have your cake and eat it, too.
How this discussion went from Gen 2 Lightnings with $500 in mods running high-12s, low-13s vs. Sy/Ty to Gen 2s vs. ONE very fast '92 Dakota pickup is beyond me. I mean, please...there are several Gen 1 L's running 7s. So what? There are several Gen 2s running 11s. Sure this is a new powerplant/drivetrain combination that will take some time to "hot-rod". Right now it is _very_ cost-prohibitive. No argument there. I've found the same thing to be the case with my '96 4v 4.6 Cobra. But, I also remember when everyone in the late-80s was complaining about the "black box" EFI engine management systems. The aftermarket figured it out. Hopefully, the EPA and CARB won't get _bigger_ (get rid of liberal, left-wingers) and will allow us hot-rodders the ability to R&D ways to make the vehicles faster and more fun.
No one is knocking a 318 that's been modified to run whatever...9s, 10s, 11s? Great! Kudos to you. Don't tell us that you can take a NEW R/T and slap the same mods on there (crate motor/shortblock, heads, cam, etc) and outrun a NEW L for LESS $$ than the L cost. I believe that was the point of all these Dodge guys here. I've yet to see an R/T with $5k+ in mods run low-13s on _stock_ tires. That's basically the difference in cost of the NEW trucks, and they are still slower, smaller inside, and have less towing capacity. That doesn't mean they are bad...but the people on this board didn't choose them.
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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/444rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4 http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html
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If you build it RIGHT you might not need a trailer to go racing.
1 BAD DAK is correct in that you don't run stock driveline parts once you start making some serious power. However, once you get the right parts, making it a trailer-baby isn't always mandatory.Take my LX for example (Jan. '00 Super Ford)... 22mpg on the highway, driven to and from the track 80 miles one-way, take drag radials off, bolt on slicks, race, put drag radials back on and drive home at 70-75mph on the highway...yes, I have overdrive.

Sure, there's a chance I could break my built up driveline. I don't discount that. But, that doesn't mean I absolutely have to have a trailer to go racing. My choice.
You CAN have your cake and eat it, too.
How this discussion went from Gen 2 Lightnings with $500 in mods running high-12s, low-13s vs. Sy/Ty to Gen 2s vs. ONE very fast '92 Dakota pickup is beyond me. I mean, please...there are several Gen 1 L's running 7s. So what? There are several Gen 2s running 11s. Sure this is a new powerplant/drivetrain combination that will take some time to "hot-rod". Right now it is _very_ cost-prohibitive. No argument there. I've found the same thing to be the case with my '96 4v 4.6 Cobra. But, I also remember when everyone in the late-80s was complaining about the "black box" EFI engine management systems. The aftermarket figured it out. Hopefully, the EPA and CARB won't get _bigger_ (get rid of liberal, left-wingers) and will allow us hot-rodders the ability to R&D ways to make the vehicles faster and more fun.

No one is knocking a 318 that's been modified to run whatever...9s, 10s, 11s? Great! Kudos to you. Don't tell us that you can take a NEW R/T and slap the same mods on there (crate motor/shortblock, heads, cam, etc) and outrun a NEW L for LESS $$ than the L cost. I believe that was the point of all these Dodge guys here. I've yet to see an R/T with $5k+ in mods run low-13s on _stock_ tires. That's basically the difference in cost of the NEW trucks, and they are still slower, smaller inside, and have less towing capacity. That doesn't mean they are bad...but the people on this board didn't choose them.
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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/444rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4 http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html
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Hey ***** head, throw a 8lb blower on a R/T and it'll be in the high 13's, i know my truck better than you know my truck so keep your irrelevant comments to yourself, before i sick one bad dak on you again to rip you another a$$hole, your Lightning is the fastest truck in the world and the quickest in production, i never said it wasnt, but what gives you the right to knock on R/T's, they are #2 still, why dont you knock on extremes or rangers or something, something that has no go, at least the R/T's are whoopin the Mustang GT's, and if you care to oppose that, i've done a few times myself, 5.0's, 302's and the new ones, 281's or whatevers in'em
And the Gen 1 lightnings are garbage, i'll spank those to, Ford finally stumbled over something that can make there engines powerful because they couldnt do it themselves, they found the supercharger, so lets throw one on every fast car we have, dont get me wrong the s351 saleen is a real nice car, but its blown, why doesnt ford try making fast automobiles without blowers, just throwin in my 5.9 cents


