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Yea the road was wet, do you think that will help me a little in one of the charges i mean everybody knows that you can loose control in rainy conditions as well is easier to spin the tires. Hey mike00L take it easy bro that is his point of veiw about cops I know that you are here to save our a$$ but sometimes(Im not saying you) they pull you over for stupid reasons.
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I would definetly get a lawyer that has experience in handling traffic court related issues. A good lawyer can make this whole nightmare go away for you, or at the least have some of the charges reduced. If I were you I would definetly get a lawyer.
If you live in South Florida give me a call: 954-536-6038. I can recommend a lawyer that is very good and who has helped me get out of trouble in the past.
If you live in South Florida give me a call: 954-536-6038. I can recommend a lawyer that is very good and who has helped me get out of trouble in the past.
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I don't know how it works other places, but in Jersey...its all about the "unsafe driving" plea. Its a catch all of sorts. Never had to use it myself but more than one friend has been saved by it. You can plead unsafe twice before you have to truly bite the bullet.
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Originally Posted by Blown347Hatch
You are entitled to your opinion. A layman gets less respect than an atty rep'd one. Credibility is on a per case basis. If you know so much, then you would know that experts regularly have their credibility attacked in order to discredit what they are testifying to. In the end, it's up to whom the jury believes. It's not something that once its determined in one courtroom setting, that person can no longer ever testify. Sorry if you don't like my references to traffic court, but down here, it's all about revenue generation, and that makes for a circus. You may think you know everything, but you do have a lot to learn.
You are right about that. Credibilty is on a case by case basis. Credibilty is asked of the officer only on such cases as Dwi, radar or other mv offenses of a serious nature where a trial would be necessary and how the officer used his knowledge of or how long the officer has been doing or certified to do that particular method involving motor vehicle cases - its not to discredit the officer and officers do not have to defend the reason why a summons was issued on minor violations. I would hope that any Police officer that writes a ticket would know why he or she is doing so. We certainly dont know everything but when it comes to the law we know more than you do.
Blown347hatch - You have a lot to say about how cops are no good and we are taking advantage of every situation - Sure as hell sounds like you have a negative attitude towards the Police, Why is that???
Walk a mile in a mans shoes before you judge him!
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Originally Posted by mike00L
God complex??? That is the typical response from someone that has no idea what they are talking about! What you think is a "BS" ticket may save someones life just by the officer "Doing his Job" and stopping the errant driver for what they feel is stupid violation or "that cop is picking on me" attitude. I dont believe in writting people for the minor infractions unless it posses a threat to someones safety or you run a red light in my presence (which I will gladly chase you down and give you a ticket for).
When you make comments like that you show your ignorance of the Police that are there for YOUR safety and of the law and its you who shows a GOD COMPLEX with that attitude. Obviously you have had a run in with the Police in your past and feel that you did nothing wrong or that you got caught and the other guy got away with it!
Your right, when those lights go on we may not be responding to a call but may have to get somewhere a little bit faster than the normal flow of traffic but without exceeding the speed limit by a great deal so if we have to get through an intersection by hitting the lights then so be it. Yes, some cops do that because they are impatient but most of us are doing it for a reason. Your not in the car nor do you know what is going on. We could be racing to a call to save your life or someone that you care about or if we are speeding without the lights and or siren on its probably because we are going to a hot call and dont want to announce that we are coming. In any case, as I said, you dont know what your talking about and it sounds like you have the EGO PROBLEM!
When you make comments like that you show your ignorance of the Police that are there for YOUR safety and of the law and its you who shows a GOD COMPLEX with that attitude. Obviously you have had a run in with the Police in your past and feel that you did nothing wrong or that you got caught and the other guy got away with it!
Your right, when those lights go on we may not be responding to a call but may have to get somewhere a little bit faster than the normal flow of traffic but without exceeding the speed limit by a great deal so if we have to get through an intersection by hitting the lights then so be it. Yes, some cops do that because they are impatient but most of us are doing it for a reason. Your not in the car nor do you know what is going on. We could be racing to a call to save your life or someone that you care about or if we are speeding without the lights and or siren on its probably because we are going to a hot call and dont want to announce that we are coming. In any case, as I said, you dont know what your talking about and it sounds like you have the EGO PROBLEM!
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Originally Posted by svtlover
Yea the road was wet, do you think that will help me a little in one of the charges i mean everybody knows that you can loose control in rainy conditions as well is easier to spin the tires. Hey mike00L take it easy bro that is his point of veiw about cops I know that you are here to save our a$$ but sometimes(Im not saying you) they pull you over for stupid reasons.
I am "taking it easy bro". You asked for advice on what you should do and I offered it. So did several others, some who know what they are talking about and some who are obvioulsy here only to start problems and take the oppertunity to say negative things about Police. Like I said, there are two sides to every story. What you say might differ from what the officer observed or feels he observed. I missed the part of your story where you said the road was wet. That is more than likely why he gave you the reckless ticket because you are supposed to maintain a safe vehicle at all times especially in bad weather and he felt that you did not.
You are right, sometimes we do stop you for something stupid - That is our job and that is why the laws exist. You dont have to agree with them but you should follow them. If I do something wrong and get pulled over and the cop writes me knowing that I too am an officer then so be it - I'll just have to deal with it.
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my two cents...
First off, you left a party. Are you over 21? Had you been drinking?
If you had alcohol on your breath, the officer might have been doing you a favor with simply a wreckless ticket.
Second: Get a lawyer.
Third: Any excuse about high-performance vehicle will be met with something to the effect of "you shouldn't have been driving it then."
Fourth: Did I mention get a lawyer?
One of the nice(?) things about the American legal system is you can buy yourself out of anything. Just ask yourself if this is worth buying out of.
Coldie
If you had alcohol on your breath, the officer might have been doing you a favor with simply a wreckless ticket.
Second: Get a lawyer.
Third: Any excuse about high-performance vehicle will be met with something to the effect of "you shouldn't have been driving it then."
Fourth: Did I mention get a lawyer?
One of the nice(?) things about the American legal system is you can buy yourself out of anything. Just ask yourself if this is worth buying out of.
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Get a lawyer....
Know how you feel 
A year ago in GA I pulled out infront of some traffic and spun the inner wheel pretty good. Unfortunately "some traffic" included a cop who pulled me over and cited me for laying drags.
I lost way to much sleep over what to do and decided to delay some mods and hired a lawyer for $500. He talked to the DA and got me off with a $65 admin fee and $75 traffic school. Zero points, no record, no insurance increase and peace of mind
If you play, you pay.... -and I would pay again if I had to.
A year ago in GA I pulled out infront of some traffic and spun the inner wheel pretty good. Unfortunately "some traffic" included a cop who pulled me over and cited me for laying drags.
I lost way to much sleep over what to do and decided to delay some mods and hired a lawyer for $500. He talked to the DA and got me off with a $65 admin fee and $75 traffic school. Zero points, no record, no insurance increase and peace of mind
If you play, you pay.... -and I would pay again if I had to.
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No Im not 21 and I wasnt drinking, it was a sweet 16 party and in there police doesn't allow alcoholic beverages it is a small quiet community. Hey mike thanks for your advice but do you think the judge would buy my story? it wasnt that bad to deserve this, I just accelerated to the speed limit the tires spin while taking off on a wet road and at a corner.
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Originally Posted by mike00L
God complex??? That is the typical response from someone that has no idea what they are talking about! What you think is a "BS" ticket may save someones life just by the officer "Doing his Job" and stopping the errant driver for what they feel is stupid violation or "that cop is picking on me" attitude. I dont believe in writting people for the minor infractions unless it posses a threat to someones safety or you run a red light in my presence (which I will gladly chase you down and give you a ticket for).
When you make comments like that you show your ignorance of the Police that are there for YOUR safety and of the law and its you who shows a GOD COMPLEX with that attitude. Obviously you have had a run in with the Police in your past and feel that you did nothing wrong or that you got caught and the other guy got away with it!
Your right, when those lights go on we may not be responding to a call but may have to get somewhere a little bit faster than the normal flow of traffic but without exceeding the speed limit by a great deal so if we have to get through an intersection by hitting the lights then so be it. Yes, some cops do that because they are impatient but most of us are doing it for a reason. Your not in the car nor do you know what is going on. We could be racing to a call to save your life or someone that you care about or if we are speeding without the lights and or siren on its probably because we are going to a hot call and dont want to announce that we are coming. In any case, as I said, you dont know what your talking about and it sounds like you have the EGO PROBLEM!
When you make comments like that you show your ignorance of the Police that are there for YOUR safety and of the law and its you who shows a GOD COMPLEX with that attitude. Obviously you have had a run in with the Police in your past and feel that you did nothing wrong or that you got caught and the other guy got away with it!
Your right, when those lights go on we may not be responding to a call but may have to get somewhere a little bit faster than the normal flow of traffic but without exceeding the speed limit by a great deal so if we have to get through an intersection by hitting the lights then so be it. Yes, some cops do that because they are impatient but most of us are doing it for a reason. Your not in the car nor do you know what is going on. We could be racing to a call to save your life or someone that you care about or if we are speeding without the lights and or siren on its probably because we are going to a hot call and dont want to announce that we are coming. In any case, as I said, you dont know what your talking about and it sounds like you have the EGO PROBLEM!
As for going through traffic lights by turning on the emergency lights, and then turning them back off again, I've seen it more times than I care to count. I do believe most officers are counting on John Q Public thinking they are always "going to a hot call." I am convinced that many of them are guilty of the same things that they write everybody else tickets for. Too many pompus cops out there as it is. Another thing. How many cops own performance vehicles? I noticed a suprising number. I'll bet when off duty, they enjoy their performance vehicles in similar fashion to many that they would write infractions for. If I had an ego problem, then I guess I would be a cop instead. I am referring only to the cops guilty of what I have been discussing. If you are not one of them, then disregard. Your earlier 99% remark set me off, and showed your true colors.
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Originally Posted by svtlover
No Im not 21 and I wasnt drinking, it was a sweet 16 party and in there police doesn't allow alcoholic beverages it is a small quiet community. Hey mike thanks for your advice but do you think the judge would buy my story? it wasnt that bad to deserve this, I just accelerated to the speed limit the tires spin while taking off on a wet road and at a corner.
Like I said before, I think your best chances are going to be talking to the prosecutor and the officer who wrote you the summons. The judge will usually go with what the prosecutor suggests unless there is some type of mandatory fine that he must by state law impose on you.
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Originally Posted by Blown347Hatch
Yeah, I know. Every stop, every ticket for going 10 over the limit is for our own good. Save the holier than thou lecture. You proved my point with your admission......"Your right, when those lights go on we may not be responding to a call but may have to get somewhere a little bit faster than the normal flow of traffic..." It's called, "do as I say......., you know the rest.
As for going through traffic lights by turning on the emergency lights, and then turning them back off again, I've seen it more times than I care to count. I do believe most officers are counting on John Q Public thinking they are always "going to a hot call." I am convinced that many of them are guilty of the same things that they write everybody else tickets for. Too many pompus cops out there as it is. Another thing. How many cops own performance vehicles? I noticed a suprising number. I'll bet when off duty, they enjoy their performance vehicles in similar fashion to many that they would write infractions for. If I had an ego problem, then I guess I would be a cop instead. I am referring only to the cops guilty of what I have been discussing. If you are not one of them, then disregard. Your earlier 99% remark set me off, and showed your true colors.
As for going through traffic lights by turning on the emergency lights, and then turning them back off again, I've seen it more times than I care to count. I do believe most officers are counting on John Q Public thinking they are always "going to a hot call." I am convinced that many of them are guilty of the same things that they write everybody else tickets for. Too many pompus cops out there as it is. Another thing. How many cops own performance vehicles? I noticed a suprising number. I'll bet when off duty, they enjoy their performance vehicles in similar fashion to many that they would write infractions for. If I had an ego problem, then I guess I would be a cop instead. I am referring only to the cops guilty of what I have been discussing. If you are not one of them, then disregard. Your earlier 99% remark set me off, and showed your true colors.
Every time you post on this topic your showing your arrogance towards the Police and your ignorance in reading only what you want to perceive out if my posts. When I said " When those lights go on...." I meant that we may be responding somewhere but its not extremely urgent so as to set a land speed record but that we need to get there in a timely mannor!
I own a performance vehicle, several in fact and if I do something wrong then I may have to pay the price for it also - just the way the ball bounces.
What do you mean "if I had an ego problem"??? YOU DO! I think you have a jealousy issue also like maybe you wish you could do the things that you believe the Police do and get away with it. The "99%" comment holds true to what I have experienced in my 12 years of law enforcement and your arrogance set me off and showed your dislike of the very people who protect your right to be an a-hole! Thats the end of this pissing contest for me - Im out
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Originally Posted by svtlover
it wasnt that bad to deserve this, I just accelerated to the speed limit the tires spin while taking off on a wet road and at a corner.
from what I've read your innocent
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You need to get "lawyered up" because the DA will have more respect against you in Court as far as plea bargaining is concerned
I disagree. You may be right in the abstract, but you are forgetting who the client is here:
"the only reason he pulled me over was that i peel the tires now why did he charged with reckless driving??? is that part of exhibition of speed?. Im about to contact that motha f---- and ask him why the hell he gave me all this crap, im really mad with this situation. BTW the cop didnt saw anything he just heard the noise of the engine and tires. I was the only person in the road in that time."
I wouldn't let him within 100 feet of the witness chair, much less anywhere near the DA's office.
Originally Posted by Blown347Hatch
You need to get "lawyered up" because the DA will have more respect against you in Court as far as plea bargaining is concerned
Originally Posted by l-menace
No, we don't!
"the only reason he pulled me over was that i peel the tires now why did he charged with reckless driving??? is that part of exhibition of speed?. Im about to contact that motha f---- and ask him why the hell he gave me all this crap, im really mad with this situation. BTW the cop didnt saw anything he just heard the noise of the engine and tires. I was the only person in the road in that time."
I wouldn't let him within 100 feet of the witness chair, much less anywhere near the DA's office.
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
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I wouldn't let him within 100 feet of the witness chair, much less anywhere near the DA's office.
I wouldn't let him within 100 feet of the witness chair, much less anywhere near the DA's office.
Did not see that the street was wet and it was a corner ....dammm Tim...