SRT 10 parked out front (pics)
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From: Bel Air, MD
Originally posted by SVT F15O
Damn man, you say that quite a bit. Sounds like someone has something against GEN II's. Don't be upset. Whether it is faster stock Vs. stock or not. What does it matter. Not a whole lot of people keep a performance vehicle stock. -Mat-
Damn man, you say that quite a bit. Sounds like someone has something against GEN II's. Don't be upset. Whether it is faster stock Vs. stock or not. What does it matter. Not a whole lot of people keep a performance vehicle stock. -Mat-
Obviously people have a lot of angst towards, or worrying about, a vehicle that hasn't come out yet. People like to compare numbers, and when comparing, the only numbers to use are the stock ones.There are a lot of people discounting the SRT, I'm just one that sees it as a very cool truck, and something that'll smack the Gen2s around. Then the Gen3s come out, and it'll go back and forth. Gen2s have been on top for too long, and the market needs a competitive truck... that's what makes it fun.
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Originally posted by Brian Baskin
Obviously people have a lot of angst towards, or worrying about, a vehicle that hasn't come out yet.
There are a lot of people discounting the SRT, I'm just one that sees it as a very cool truck, and something that'll smack the Gen2s around.
Obviously people have a lot of angst towards, or worrying about, a vehicle that hasn't come out yet.
There are a lot of people discounting the SRT, I'm just one that sees it as a very cool truck, and something that'll smack the Gen2s around.
I also think it's a cool truck (well, the black one I saw in Daytona was cool, that red thing at the beginning of this thread is hideous IMHO). But in any event, I don't see one of them smacking MY GenII L around any time soon.
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chris
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Originally posted by superfords
I also think it's a cool truck (well, the black one I saw in Daytona was cool, that red thing at the beginning of this thread is hideous IMHO).
later,
chris
I also think it's a cool truck (well, the black one I saw in Daytona was cool, that red thing at the beginning of this thread is hideous IMHO).
later,
chris
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why is this Bryan Baskin guy always putting down Gen 2's?
A few weeks ago it was about the fastest lightning being a tube chassis gen 1, not a Gen 2.
oh wel, to each their own.
Look at the front of that truck. It looks like *****. If I had that much plastic on my $50,000 ride I'd be pissed!
Reminds me of current GM's that are plastic everything! Mostly side moulding.
At least the Gen 2 lightning doesn't look like a hotwheels truck designed by a child!
That rear wing is stupid, along with the Exhaust!
C'mon $50k and the exhaust looks like this!
A few weeks ago it was about the fastest lightning being a tube chassis gen 1, not a Gen 2.
oh wel, to each their own.
Look at the front of that truck. It looks like *****. If I had that much plastic on my $50,000 ride I'd be pissed!
Reminds me of current GM's that are plastic everything! Mostly side moulding.
At least the Gen 2 lightning doesn't look like a hotwheels truck designed by a child!
That rear wing is stupid, along with the Exhaust!
C'mon $50k and the exhaust looks like this!
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Originally posted by MaxTorque02
I don't see any thing that would make one look hideous and one look cool.
I don't see any thing that would make one look hideous and one look cool.
one looks pretty clean, the other looks pep boys add on, you decide. just my .02
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chris
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Why are you guys reading into my messages things that I'm not saying?? I like the Gen2s, love the Gen1s. You are somehow reading between the lines, where there is no hidden messages.
Let me spell this out, if it is required:
The sport truck world has very few recent trucks, the R/T and Gen2 L. Of them, it's obvious the Gen2 is the better vehicle. It's been the top sport truck made for the last 6 years, with none of the other manufacturers putting up any competition. What does this mean? I see a ton of Lightnings on the road, and a few modified other trucks. Lightnings have a huge market, and there's race classes designated solely for Lightnings. There needs to be MORE than Lightnings on the streets and the market right now, because IMO it's just plain dull. It's as if the entire sport car world was all Camaros, with no such thing as Mustangs, Cobras or Corvettes.
I expected that more people would welcome competition, to go to races where there's more than just homogenized Lightnings, and to stir up the rivalries between manufacturers.
Do you want to debate over the fact that the fastest Lightning is Jason Brown's Gen1? Read the newest edition of 5.0 and Superfords, where there's a long interview with Sal, who gives recognition to Jason Brown's truck. Anyways, why bring this up now? Why not in the earlier thread? I'm not comparing the two trucks, there's too many differences between them to do so, but you have to give credit where it's due.
Let me spell this out, if it is required:
The sport truck world has very few recent trucks, the R/T and Gen2 L. Of them, it's obvious the Gen2 is the better vehicle. It's been the top sport truck made for the last 6 years, with none of the other manufacturers putting up any competition. What does this mean? I see a ton of Lightnings on the road, and a few modified other trucks. Lightnings have a huge market, and there's race classes designated solely for Lightnings. There needs to be MORE than Lightnings on the streets and the market right now, because IMO it's just plain dull. It's as if the entire sport car world was all Camaros, with no such thing as Mustangs, Cobras or Corvettes.
I expected that more people would welcome competition, to go to races where there's more than just homogenized Lightnings, and to stir up the rivalries between manufacturers.
Do you want to debate over the fact that the fastest Lightning is Jason Brown's Gen1? Read the newest edition of 5.0 and Superfords, where there's a long interview with Sal, who gives recognition to Jason Brown's truck. Anyways, why bring this up now? Why not in the earlier thread? I'm not comparing the two trucks, there's too many differences between them to do so, but you have to give credit where it's due.
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Man...
I was just out walking and some schlub drops this SRT 10 in my lap...I take some pix,,,and the next thing you know I get the post with the most views and replies of any post I've ever posted....
Cool...
That said, I like the looks of the black prototype better than the red one I saw.
The exterior of the red one was quite plasticy. The interior appeared to be a better quality than the cheap abs plastic of our Ls.
The wheels on the SRT are way too much. Giant wheels, low profile...I can't imagine it would handle all too well or ride well at all what with all that weight on so little rubber.
Plus, although I have never owned a Dodge, I have never heard anything positive about build quality or service (although I can't say all that much that's positive about Ford service)
However...I'm still waitin' for the Gen III.
I was just out walking and some schlub drops this SRT 10 in my lap...I take some pix,,,and the next thing you know I get the post with the most views and replies of any post I've ever posted....
Cool...
That said, I like the looks of the black prototype better than the red one I saw.
The exterior of the red one was quite plasticy. The interior appeared to be a better quality than the cheap abs plastic of our Ls.
The wheels on the SRT are way too much. Giant wheels, low profile...I can't imagine it would handle all too well or ride well at all what with all that weight on so little rubber.
Plus, although I have never owned a Dodge, I have never heard anything positive about build quality or service (although I can't say all that much that's positive about Ford service)
However...I'm still waitin' for the Gen III.
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I like the Black prototype. The body on it seems smaller and smoother....I wonder what the coeffcient of drag is on the red one. Hey a Viper is a Dodge but I like it.
Tell me you don't.
I can't wait to run one. If it is juiced I may go down in flames....Otherwise I am very confident .
Granted our truck is drag limited...
I doubt the SRT-10 will pull top end faster then a Lightning...It will be playing catch up...and how often will it have time or rode enough to catch the Bolt.....
Bring it on!
Tell me you don't.
I can't wait to run one. If it is juiced I may go down in flames....Otherwise I am very confident .
Granted our truck is drag limited...
I doubt the SRT-10 will pull top end faster then a Lightning...It will be playing catch up...and how often will it have time or rode enough to catch the Bolt.....
Bring it on!
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It wouldn't be hard to make the red one look like the black one. That would be my first set of mods, a new bumper cover, etc. I'm sure someone will step up to the plate and develop a better body kit. Other than that, the drivetrain is very nice. The Viper T56 is strong, stronger than the 03 Cobra..so it will take some abuse. The newer Viper V10 is proven to be very fast and reliable. It's a decent setup, but way over priced! That being said, I'd still take a modded Lightning over the SRT. Although I'm not a bid Mopar fan to start with.
One more thought, I bet this truck will open the market for more Viper performance parts. I don't know how many trucks they will sell or plan to sell, but I bet the price will come down by next year. Especially if they over produce like Ford does with the 03 Cobra and Lightning.
One more thought, I bet this truck will open the market for more Viper performance parts. I don't know how many trucks they will sell or plan to sell, but I bet the price will come down by next year. Especially if they over produce like Ford does with the 03 Cobra and Lightning.
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If you build it, they will come.
And they will come Ray. Yes, they will come to their Dodge dealers and want to buy a truck that costs 45 to 50 thousand dollars, and they won't even know why. Yes Ray, they will come, and they will see the truck, and they will like it, and they will want it. And then they will actually see the sticker price and they will leave, because nobody in their right mind will drop 50 grand on a truck (unless they live in Los Angeles...where people will buy anything just because it is expensive.)
But if the Dodge Boys overbuild the truck (like the Ford dudes do) then they will sit on dealer lots for a while and the desperate Dodge Boys will slash prices to unload the magical truck. And if they slash prices, they will come Ray....
And they will come Ray. Yes, they will come to their Dodge dealers and want to buy a truck that costs 45 to 50 thousand dollars, and they won't even know why. Yes Ray, they will come, and they will see the truck, and they will like it, and they will want it. And then they will actually see the sticker price and they will leave, because nobody in their right mind will drop 50 grand on a truck (unless they live in Los Angeles...where people will buy anything just because it is expensive.)
But if the Dodge Boys overbuild the truck (like the Ford dudes do) then they will sit on dealer lots for a while and the desperate Dodge Boys will slash prices to unload the magical truck. And if they slash prices, they will come Ray....
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I still find it absolutely pitiful on Dodge’s part if they “really think” their SRT-10 truck is in the same market as a Lightning. It is NOT, it is approx. $12,000 more money for equal to or LESS performance then a Lightning.
Dodge blew it big time when trying to compete with a Lightning. The Lightning is in a league of it’s own, and for the foreseeable future will remain so until Dodge drops it’s price to within 3% - 5% of the price of a Lightning.
I don’t care what the Dodge horsepower and torque ratings are nor their mammoth cubic inch displacement because in the end, as far as STOCK and it’s current rating it is equal to or less then a Lightning performance curve.
I have read many sites on the internet and they all basically come back to identical ¼ mile times, it is the ¼ mile TIME that counts and nothing else, it is the vehicle that hits the finish line first that counts, not mph, not horsepower, not torque and not cubic inches.
The first one to the line wins, and at this time it looks like they both hit the line at the same time. Problem is, the Dodge will not see the line at the same time, as advertised, because many people will not be able to get peak performance out of Dodge’s manual transmission.
The only thing Dodge did was to, in my opinion, screw consumers. They have a truck equal to a Lightning that cost 33% more money. So if Dodge gets enough moron’s into their lots to buy the truck they “claim” can beat a Lighting then guess what happens?
Ford will raise their price on the Lightning’s. However I don’t really see it as a problem, I don’t think Dodge will sale many of their overpriced, performance lacking toys to anyone that is semi-educated about STOCK performance trucks…
Dodge blew it big time when trying to compete with a Lightning. The Lightning is in a league of it’s own, and for the foreseeable future will remain so until Dodge drops it’s price to within 3% - 5% of the price of a Lightning.
I don’t care what the Dodge horsepower and torque ratings are nor their mammoth cubic inch displacement because in the end, as far as STOCK and it’s current rating it is equal to or less then a Lightning performance curve.
I have read many sites on the internet and they all basically come back to identical ¼ mile times, it is the ¼ mile TIME that counts and nothing else, it is the vehicle that hits the finish line first that counts, not mph, not horsepower, not torque and not cubic inches.
The first one to the line wins, and at this time it looks like they both hit the line at the same time. Problem is, the Dodge will not see the line at the same time, as advertised, because many people will not be able to get peak performance out of Dodge’s manual transmission.
The only thing Dodge did was to, in my opinion, screw consumers. They have a truck equal to a Lightning that cost 33% more money. So if Dodge gets enough moron’s into their lots to buy the truck they “claim” can beat a Lighting then guess what happens?
Ford will raise their price on the Lightning’s. However I don’t really see it as a problem, I don’t think Dodge will sale many of their overpriced, performance lacking toys to anyone that is semi-educated about STOCK performance trucks…
