Keep the original wheels! They look better in my opinion, plus if you put on the older wheels people will think the truck is a 99-00 model.

the 01-03's are easier to clean

Everyone who has dragged raced their L knows that key to a low ET is a good 60'foot. The 1/2/3's have enough hp to pull the numerically bigger gears all the way through the 1/4 !!! Thats the advantage of the additional 35hp. Got that Dammit.

Originally posted by LightningDammitt
ok... Since we ARE just having fun... Don't you have enuff savvy to break the quote down to individual topics?

yes I have enough savvy I just didn't have enough time


Well... TECHNICALLY speaking... a LOT of 99's and 00's were MODDED b4 the 01-03's came out, so Ford actually ADJUSTED THEM to keep up with the modded 99/00's....

My view on that is a little different. SVT recognized a feeling of inadequacey umong L owners that were modding their truck pre-01. So being the wonderful group of people they are they went back to the drawing board and added approx 35hp for the 01 year model.


Not after a cone filter and chip... at that point, the hp should be the same. ok... ok... Gotta change the MAF too....

We covered this already. Yes you can modify a 99/00 to make the same power as a STOCK 1/2/3. Hell Ford felt so bad for the 99/00 guys that they gave them the 1/2/3 intercoolers for free.

After that you might say well... I'll run a chip too... Well, that doesn't work. I can get the same specs with the tune on my chip as the 01-03 gets with theirs, even with their aftermarket chip.

No no no...Everybody knows that when it comes to modding the person with the most money wins. I'm talking about the true essense of the L. I'm talking about L's in their purest form. I'm talking about Lightning Bolts straight from the heavens...Unmolested. Can I get an Amen up in here.

uhhh... you ARE messed up there... 3.92's and 4.10's make getting the vehicle moving easier. There are MORE engine rev's per wheel revolution. Therefore, since the engine rpm's are practically topped out in the 1/4, my mph will be higher than yours. Put more simply, I'll catch you in the end... ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL.

I'm not messed up!!! I'm talking about the 3.73's that come stock in our L's. To clarify : If you put those 3.73's in a 9/0 you still wouldn't be as fast as the 1/2/3's because at the end of the race when we are both topping out I'll out pull you by 35hp thus making me faster than you.

Why not put any higher ratios? Because there IS a limit. The L is already close with the 3.73's. A smaller wheel and more profile would give better traction, but with 3.92's that smaller diameter tire will have you making lower MPH's and (probably) higher ET's.

I agree totally. Its a good idea until you run out of motor which happens faster in the case of the 9/0's.

It's all give and take...

To further illustrate my point, had you participated in the boards in 99 and 2k, you would know that one of the main topics of discussion was that 4.10's and the smaller diameter drag radials (only thing available at the time) were improving 60 ft's, but with little improvement in ET. Do a search....

I said I agree totally..why do you keep bringing up old shidt?



Shouldn't there be a question mark after that question? And to answer the question...

NOPE!

Whats this crap about a HD? You don't even have a LightningDammit!!!

Originally posted by tallimeca
Um..sounds to me that everything you know is from what you've read on this forum......and we know not everything is true. Somehow, your 13.0 stock seems to be one of these things.

I know more that what I've read on this forum!!! I'm glad you joined our little discussion here...remember it is all in good fun.
Regarding my 13.07 pass It really did happen. The only thing I can do to offer proof is to scan the timeslip and post it and I can let Mr.BBQMAN verify that the the truck is stock pullied and hasn't had the contacts cleaned for a chip install. I knew that eventially someone would question whether or not that pass happened. I was so impressed with my truck and myself that night that I couldn't wait to share my accomplishments with the Forum. I knew also that if I was going to attempt to crack the 12's in the same trim that I would need witnesses. Thats why I invited anyone and everyone in the area to come to the track with me that following Friday. The track didn't open because it got too cold...I was very dissappointed as I knew I could drive my truck down the track in less than 13 seconds in the cold air we were having then. Believe it or not it happened.

The only "gears" that is different is the "gear" in the rear end. The gear(s) in the tranny are numberically the same.

Those would be the ones I'm talking about...the ring and pinion gears in the rear end

Yes, the 60 ft time is important, but it's not the only "key". You could be ripping off 1.7's in the hole and dying in the top end, which means you could loose to a 1.9 or even a 2.0 60 vehicle.

I never said it was the "only key". To clarify what I said : If you take any given L and improve its 60' you'll improve its ET with no other changes. If the 60' was the only factor then the race would only be 60'!!

Stock for stock the 01's and up go through the traps at a higher RPM than the 2000 and 99's.

Don't ever let anyone tell you that you don't have a firm grasp on the obvious!!!

There's no fault for having 3:53's.....ask Sal!!! All depends on what size tires and wheels your using. Fords reasoning for going with the 3:53's had nothing to do with the engine not having the horsepower.....quite stupid thing to say. The reason why ford went to 3:73's on the newer models was to increase acceleration, thus making their product more appealing, while still being able to maintian fuel economy.

So if I understand you are saying that the 1/2/3's have increased acceleration over the 9/0's. Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will) but the standing quarter mile is a measurement of acceleration. What was your point? You seemed to have talked in a circle on that one.

Ask anyone on has owened an 00, or 99 that traded for an 01 and up, with a few mod, the 3:73's are less appealing on the street because they spin the tires from a stop alot easier....could lead to quite an embarrassment, after all, you said how important that 60 was!!! Ford also realized that there wasn't a huge margin in the fuel effeciency between the 3:73 and 3:53 rear end.

My statements are about STOCK L's and besides even stock L's will light up the tires if you just nail em'. You do need to know how to drive your truck be it a 9/0/1/2/ or 3.

The hp increase was due to R&D, getting the motor to flow more air, afterall it is supercharged....in conjuctions, with a computer reflash, they happened to pick up 20 hp at the flywheel while attaining a good air/fuel ratio to keep the effeciency in fuel economy as the earlier models..

Cool..I never said that it wasn't for good reasons only that it was.

You forgot the signal markers on the side view mirrors. Those definetely made a difference in performance. Oh, and the Led brake light too

DOH I did forget them

Nasty Wendy, for somebody who was said they were just having a little fun, you seem to be on a mission to lay the smack on the 99' 00' boys.

Originally posted by Nasty Wendy
And what the @%##% do you have to do with this???