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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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See? I told you it was a personal opinion (although, my opinion hasn't changed even though I'm using it wrong... hahahaha).

Glad it worked out for you, emmit!

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See.....!!

You knew I was into leather, and now you can see I understand truck seats too !!!

 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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I was disappointed that I didn't get a comment back from you after the mammatus reference... pretty let down, in fact.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
I was disappointed that I didn't get a comment back from you after the mammatus reference... pretty let down, in fact.
Sorry 'bout that...I do normally keep abreastof replies !!!!!

 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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I had to REALLY think and look at what you said there.... I guess there was a teensey weensie spelling error in the first mention of mother nature's fury.

ROFLMAO! Freudian slip...
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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In a feeble attempt to get this thread back on track and off the Freudian couch (but of course no one really cares do they)? I've used both the KR conditioner AND Leather CPR. I'm much happier with results from the KR stuff. The Leather CPR seemed to do very little and, the leather looked sort of "dull" after drying/curing, whatever it does. The KR conditioner seems to do a good job of "blending" scuff marks so they don't really show too much also. Here in the Arizona heat, it works just fine - no white haze.

But, I'm going to stand by my recommendation for using Tandy's Satin Shene leather finish on the steering wheel and on the center console armrest. This product has really resisted dirt and skin oils from hands and arms. But, they've changed the formulation in this too. It's now water-based, like the stuff you were tallking about Lenny. I don't have any idea how this new formulation will work, since I have plenty of the old product.

As far as the "smell" goes, NOTHING has the good leather smell of a new baseball glove!

And, forgive me, but RockPick, I don't quite understand your reference to mammatus. Are you talking about cumulus mammatus by any chance? From your login name, I'd have guessed you to be more interested in things underfoot. However, a whole sky full of "udders", is a bit hard to ignore (back to Freud, to hell with leather). :o

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
And, forgive me, but RockPick, I don't quite understand your reference to mammatus. Are you talking about cumulus mammatus by any chance? From your login name, I'd have guessed you to be more interested in things underfoot. However, a whole sky full of "udders", is a bit hard to ignore (back to Freud, to hell with leather). :o

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You're a'learnin', Jack! We regularly 'wobble' away from the set topic. Odds are that it'll wobble back to the 'norm' at some point in the genesis...

Yes. I was referring to the cumulus variety. Also, you're correct in the assumption that I deal more with the 'underfoot' variety of things...

You see, I started as a meteorology major. After spending a couple of semesters in climatology and some other 'basic' meta stuff, I decided that the road to Norman, OK was going to be a bit more uphill than what I wanted to pursue and I wasn't sure sitting in a regional office as a GS-9 for many years was the career path that I wanted to pursue.

As many 'college kids' do after realizing that their dreams from high school weren't going to likely materialize, I ventured around within the departmental area where I was based with meteorology and stumbled upon an environmental geology class. My infinite wisdom drew me to this 400 level class as a sophomore (read: I was in over my head and had to kill myself to pull a B in there). Ultimately, the class put me on to the road that I'm currently traveling.

I deal in contaminated soils and groundwater as my primary line of work. In between tinkering with dry cleaners and industrial LUSTs, I also specialize in air permitting (odd combo, eh?).

Anyway -- your assumption was correct.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Lent after using the KR Conditioner today I would have to say you must be correct. The stuff works fantastic and not a hint of any type of white haze. Seats look great and the smell is just as nice as the fresh from the factory smell. Good thing I got 2 bottles to begin.... Now the only question is.....how long will they last.
The first time that I applied KR conditioner, I used a rag. No white haze. The second time, three months later, I used my hand. A white haze was left behind. Maybe I applied it too thickly?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
In a feeble attempt to get this thread back on track and off the Freudian couch (but of course no one really cares do they)? I've used both the KR conditioner AND Leather CPR. I'm much happier with results from the KR stuff. The Leather CPR seemed to do very little and, the leather looked sort of "dull" after drying/curing, whatever it does. The KR conditioner seems to do a good job of "blending" scuff marks so they don't really show too much also. Here in the Arizona heat, it works just fine - no white haze.

But, I'm going to stand by my recommendation for using Tandy's Satin Shene leather finish on the steering wheel and on the center console armrest. This product has really resisted dirt and skin oils from hands and arms. But, they've changed the formulation in this too. It's now water-based, like the stuff you were tallking about Lenny. I don't have any idea how this new formulation will work, since I have plenty of the old product.

As far as the "smell" goes, NOTHING has the good leather smell of a new baseball glove!

And, forgive me, but RockPick, I don't quite understand your reference to mammatus. Are you talking about cumulus mammatus by any chance? From your login name, I'd have guessed you to be more interested in things underfoot. However, a whole sky full of "udders", is a bit hard to ignore (back to Freud, to hell with leather). :o

- Jack
And if you were wondering....though you probably weren't !!

Name chosen from my meteorological studies whilst I was gaining my flying qualifications.

LENTICULAR clouds (Lens shaped)

 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lenticular
And if you were wondering....though you probably weren't !!

Name chosen from my meteorological studies whilst I was gaining my flying qualifications.

LENTICULAR clouds (Lens shaped)
Actually, Lenny, I WAS wondering. And, I could only think of lenticular clouds everytime I saw your posts. But then, it could have meant you were someone who was in the business of optical lenses too.

I learned about lenticular clouds when I was getting my sailplane license (in highschool) and then again later as I was learning to be an Air Force pilot. I know they are often associated with mountain waves and CAN indicate areas of severe turbulence, or for sailplanes, areas of strong lift (from the mountain wave). We often see them here in Tucson.

It appears we have more in common than just a love of leather.

To RockPick: My Father was a mining engineer (Colorado School of Mines) and I was born in a small gold mining town in California. I find geology pretty fascinating too. I take a geology hammer with me when we go camping.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Actually, Lenny, I WAS wondering. And, I could only think of lenticular clouds everytime I saw your posts. But then, it could have meant you were someone who was in the business of optical lenses too.

I learned about lenticular clouds when I was getting my sailplane license (in highschool) and then again later as I was learning to be an Air Force pilot. I know they are often associated with mountain waves and CAN indicate areas of severe turbulence, or for sailplanes, areas of strong lift (from the mountain wave). We often see them here in Tucson.

It appears we have more in common than just a love of leather.

To RockPick: My Father was a mining engineer (Colorado School of Mines) and I was born in a small gold mining town in California. I find geology pretty fascinating too. I take a geology hammer with me when we go camping.
More Co-Inky Dinkys !!

I see you are from Arizona....

Many years ago I was one of the first UK pilots to come to the US and gain my US licence based on my UK Licence.
That was out of Meachem Field, Fort Worth, and probably the reason why I have been returning to Texas for the past 28 years.
However in the early days I did some gliding out of somewhere you possibly know...Sierra Estrella Sailport, with Les Horvath if I remember the name correctly...I think he was a US Gliding champion !

 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Many years ago I was one of the first UK pilots to come to the US and gain my US licence based on my UK Licence.
That was out of Meachem Field, Fort Worth, and probably the reason why I have been returning to Texas for the past 28 years.
However in the early days I did some gliding out of somewhere you possibly know...Sierra Estrella Sailport, with Les Horvath if I remember the name correctly...I think he was a US Gliding champion !

I've not been to Sierra Estrella - it's too close to Phoenix and I try to stay away from that place! My sailplane days were in France, because my Father had made the Army a career by then and he was stationed in Poitiers as the Area Engineer (US Army Corps of Engineers).

In my Air Force days, I was stationed a lot in Texas. Spent a lot of time in Del Rio, San Antonio and Waco. Thought I was going to go back to Texas after the Air Force, but then I got stationed in Tucson at Davis Monthan. Tucson spoiled me, so here I am!

If you get to Tucson, I've got lots of single malt I'm happy to share!

- Jack
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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I've not been to Sierra Estrella - it's too close to Phoenix and I try to stay away from that place! My sailplane days were in France, because my Father had made the Army a career by then and he was stationed in Poitiers as the Area Engineer (US Army Corps of Engineers).

In my Air Force days, I was stationed a lot in Texas. Spent a lot of time in Del Rio, San Antonio and Waco. Thought I was going to go back to Texas after the Air Force, but then I got stationed in Tucson at Davis Monthan. Tucson spoiled me, so here I am!

If you get to Tucson, I've got lots of single malt I'm happy to share!

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Thanks for the offer..very kind. I'll store it away in one of my rapidly fading brain cells.

I know Del Rio well and San Antonio even better, having spent a lot of time with friends in the Quarry Market area.

 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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To RockPick: My Father was a mining engineer (Colorado School of Mines) and I was born in a small gold mining town in California. I find geology pretty fascinating too. I take a geology hammer with me when we go camping.
I was attending a groundwater remediation conference in Denver a few years ago and made a very concerted effort to make it down to the Golden area. Neat stuff! Ironically, I'm sitting here in my School of Mines T-Shirt as we speak.

Not sure what mining companies your father worked for but, I'm currently doing 'environmental' stuff (I love the word "stuff" - so lacking in description yet so personal... ha!) for a few of the larger mines. PD, TC, Halli, and a few others (if you can pick up those acronyms).
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
I was attending a groundwater remediation conference in Denver a few years ago and made a very concerted effort to make it down to the Golden area. Neat stuff! Ironically, I'm sitting here in my School of Mines T-Shirt as we speak.

Not sure what mining companies your father worked for but, I'm currently doing 'environmental' stuff (I love the word "stuff" - so lacking in description yet so personal... ha!) for a few of the larger mines. PD, TC, Halli, and a few others (if you can pick up those acronyms).
PD is a biggie here in Southern Arizona. The other two I'm drawing a blank on - possibly a "senior moment".

My Father was working at the Empire Star mine network in Grass Valley, CA. It's now a state park. They closed the mines because it got too expensive to pump water out, not because they ran out of gold. I still vividly remember the stamp mill at the Star. (This was about 60 years ago, so I guess my memory is still functioning somewhat). Someday, maybe soon, I need to revisit that area. We left when the Korean War started and my Father was "reactivated".

We've really hijacked this thread, haven't we? :o

If you come to Tucson, you're invited to share some single malt (or marguaritas, or whatever) too!

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Most of the guys that I deal with that work with or for PD are there in Arizona. Most of the projects, however, are in Missouri (at least for them). They had their hands in lead for a long time over in that neck of the woods and thus, are tied to a couple of 'large' projects that I manage. Frankly, the attorney that I deal with from PD is one of my favorite clients -- he's just a super good guy and abnormally down to earth to be 'internal council'.

I hope to take you up on the single malt thought one of these days. Thanks kindly for the offer!

The other two - TC = Teck Cominco (Canadian-based) and Halli - Halliburton... Not sure why I was playing the acronym game there. Sorry!

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