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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 09:59 PM
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The electoral college was instituted to protect the country from the ignorant, uneducated buffoons from electing the wrong person, and at that time 95% of the voting public were ignorant and uneducated. Well now we have come full circle, as they have used the electoral college to install an ignorant uneducated buffoon into the white house.
I think you might be the one who is ignorant and uneducated -- the Electoral College was primarily established to give small states a fair amount of equity in determining who was elected President, and the need for this device is probably even more valid than it was back in the day.

If you went to a straight popular vote, you could technically skew your platform in such a way that people in California, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Texas essentially were awarded the spoils of the country, and if you got enough of their populace's to vote for that agenda, there would be very little the folks in the remaining 45 states could do to stop it.

While that might be an extreme example of what COULD be done, the fact of the matter is that without the Electoral College you would likely see most Presidential candidates simply pandering to the interests of those who live in the large metro areas and largely ignoring the interests of folks who live in (for example) Wyoming.
 

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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:03 PM
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I was young and stupid once - I voted for Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter did one good thing. The Camp David Accords. He brought Egypt and Israel together and they made peace which still holds to this day. Since the military took over Egypt again they are against Hamas which is stuck between Egypt and Israel.

I never heard of anything else he did right. I do remember the 17% home loans during his administration.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:14 PM
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..I never heard of anything else he did right...
I drank some Billy Beer back in the day.
I know that was his brother but Ole Jimmy should get some credit.

(I voted for him too by the way)
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:25 PM
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During the determination of the nominee of the party, delegates are what counts and each party has their own way of determining how many delegates exist and what their powers are.

In the general election, the electors determine who wins the presidential election. Usually, the electors vote the way the people voted but they don't have to. The number of electors equal the number of representatives each state has in the House and in the Senate. Since the number of house representatives is based on population, the number of electors are also based on population with the 2 electors added per state based on senate seats.

The Electoral College was created for two reasons. The first purpose was to create a buffer between population and the selection of a President. The second as part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states.

This first reason failed to save us from the incompetent fool in office now.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:26 PM
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I do remember the 17% home loans during his administration.
Yeah - but I was earning 16% interest on a simple money market checking account.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 01:01 AM
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Yeah - but I was earning 16% interest on a simple money market checking account.
But you also had to pay income tax on the interest that you earned so deduct 25% (MOL) from what you earned. Even if you earned 17% the two were compounded differently and the interest on the loan added up much faster than it did on the savings. It's amazing how much interest there is on a 30 YEAR loan! Been there, done that (or how to pay $300,000 for a $60,000 house!)
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 06:29 PM
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i like to see people buy houses at a 30 year term and pay as if it were 15, this way if they lose a job or have hard times they can revert back to a lower payment, but when times are good they can pay the extra and knock it out.
i paid my last house of in 8 years.


immigration, simply start arresting and prosecuting business and individuals that hire illegals. you start rolling thru some high end neighborhoods and start fining homeowners for the yard crews of illegals, it will stop. no more hidding behind, "i thought they were leagal" or "i didnt ask" next time you hire a crew to paint, landscape, power wash, roof ect... you will be asking.

the fines will fund the system.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BROTHERDAVE
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immigration, simply start arresting and prosecuting business and individuals that hire illegals. you start rolling thru some high end neighborhoods and start fining homeowners for the yard crews of illegals, it will stop. no more hidding behind, "i thought they were leagal" or "i didnt ask" next time you hire a crew to paint, landscape, power wash, roof ect... you will be asking.

the fines will fund the system.
I'll go a step further. If you report the violation you get 10% of the fine. The environmental regulations work this way and very few dare to knowingly break them. Do the same thing with immigration and watch the problem go away overnight. The problem is too many companies are saving a lot of money by hiring illegals. Not everyone knows this but the actual cost of an employee is about 150% of their gross income. An illegal instantly chops of 50% of the cost if they're paid the same rate.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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I think we can all agree that Trump is not the answer.

The answer is we've only got about six months left to repeal the 22nd Amendment.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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Trump is the answer. Our current prez has told more lies than anyone who has ever inhabited the White House I'm sure. His foreign policy has been completely inept. He is a community organizer and that's it. He has done everything he could to fan the flames of racism. He is supposedly a constitutional lawyer and yet he violates it with impunity. He needs to go back to Illinois where he can continue to hang out with his convicted domestic terrorist buddy Bill Ayers.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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On the business side of illegals, it is against the law to check on the validity of a potential hire's SS number. Then if you hire them and find out that the SS number they gave you isn't theirs, you can't fire them for that reason. I know it is goofy, but that is how it works.

Add to that when you call to verify a SS number to a name all they will tell you is that it is a match, or not a match.

It is a shame that government wants business to do their job, but then ties the hands of someone trying to comply. If the government was doing it's job then this would be a non issue, or at least not as bad as it is today.

And that, boys and girls, is how our "broken immigration system" works. No enforcement=broken system. No wonder people are so pizzed off at D.C. (acronym for DON"T CARE)
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadie
Trump is the answer. Our current prez has told more lies than anyone who has ever inhabited the White House I'm sure. His foreign policy has been completely inept. He is a community organizer and that's it. He has done everything he could to fan the flames of racism. He is supposedly a constitutional lawyer and yet he violates it with impunity. He needs to go back to Illinois where he can continue to hang out with his convicted domestic terrorist buddy Bill Ayers.
Roadie, everything you say about our current POTUS is true, however just because he is such a piece of ofal doesn't change Trump's qualifications. He is still too squishy for me on too many things for me to go all in. On the other hand if we want to restore our constitution then Cruz is the logical choice.

I know I can't change your mind.......but I just had to put that out there.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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I voted for Cruz a couple of weeks ago here in VA.
Rubio almost won the state.

My wife and walk to polling station.
I'm politicking for a mile, pleading my case but, I know as soon as she goes behind that curtain she's going to cancel out my vote!
 

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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 10:27 PM
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Any one of the 17 Republican candidates would make a better president than the criminal Hillary or the socialist Bernie. I'm not sure why some of them didn't get more support from the party. I really don't think Cruz could win in a national election. Cruz has been a little squishy too when it served his wishes. I think a businessman like Trump is what the government needs. Our politicians on both sides have not been good leaders or good managers. I want the people to decide who wins, not the leaders of the party.

With the democratic party super delegates who committed to Hillary initially, the only way Bernie could become the demo nominee is if Hillary got arrested which might happen.

If Rubio and Kasich were not hoping for a brokered convention, neither would still be in the race with 163 delegates for rubio and only 63 for Kasich. It's the most interesting election in my memory.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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If Trump wins in Ohio tomorrow, its all over!
 
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