i dont see how that works, its not dependent on poor people, poor people are dependent on it becase its very hard to find a job there are alot of working poor

 

ok well that is the typical republican argument, and I definetly dont want my parents to pay high taxes, we cant afford it so your right when it applies to middle class families but yes people making millions can afford a little more. im not saying by increasing the % rate at which they pay but the crazy tax loopholes. look up ge not paying any taxes, thats complete bs and I cant believe that they can get away with it! obama kept the bush tax cuts so arent you happy? even though it added alot to out deficit? even though the only reason that they happened was because of the surplus? were in a debt crisis and we extended that. not the best choice.

its just an opinion though

 

we dont need healthcare, survival of the fittest right?

 

Obama hired the guy from GE to work on our stance in the world economy after they had a good laugh about GE making 18 billion in profit and not paying any taxes.
http://www.frequency.com/video/ge-pa...income/3826991

My whole flippin' department is gone, no budget at all. Guess we're just screwed, not laid off so we can't get unemployment, just not reassigned. Thanks, democrats!

 

I know obama put him there? thats why its WRONG why should rich people get tax loop holes

and also everyone is to blame including republicans, no political party is always right

 

For years, Obama has been talking about closing loopholes that let BS like this happen. However, if you use a loophole, and you give him a kickback, he isn't going to worry about it.
Just like his healthcare, employers are required to provide it, unless you're McDonald's, who was required, until they brokered a deal giving Obama 40 million dollars so it didn't apply to them. A lot of people are to blame, but he's an asshat.

 

It is dependent on people being poor. When the government allocates our tax dollars to the various things that they spend our money on, they have to show that there is a need for that money to be spent that way. If too many people make it on their own, without a hand out, that money will then be allocated to something else that is showing a need. In order to keep these entitlement programs, with all of their employees and bloated beauacracies, going, it is in their best interest to grow the number of people who "need" that helping hand.

Some people are poor because there aren't enough good paying jobs. Others are poor because they've made choices in their lives that end up costing them more than they can realisticly earn. Still others are poor because they've learned that if they show the people giveing them something for free that they don't need that helping hand all of the time, they will no longer get a helping hand.

I remember well, it seeming like there were so many people who were just getting the short end of the stick in our society. I'm telling you though, I've learned, as I worked my *** of to earn my humble living, there are a whole lot of people out there willing to have a little less than what I have, while doing none of the work that I've done to earn it. In reallity it's the working class (nothing to do with thug unions) who are getting the short end of the stick in our society.

 

yeah theres been alot of handouts to alot of companies to have healthcare not apply to them and thats bs.

plus his healthcare is really just a larger version of romneys healthcare, that might be romneys fatal flaw for the republican votes

 

Actually there is a significant difference. Romneycare is just in Massachusetts. If you don't like Romneycare, move to a different state. Obamacare is federal. If you don't like Obamacare, walk like an illegal alien.

I personally would rather see a lesser known than Romney on the republican ticket. He's a polished politician like the rest of them. However, Romneycare and Obamacare are two different animals.

 

I see so Why dont more states do it but taylor it to the states wants/needs? And for a potential republican I would vote for it would be gary johnson, hes out of nowhere and I believe he could bring both parties together or maybe ron paul because he can see issues from both sides. I would also like romney or christie but christie might just cut like a mad man and really stall the economy

michelle bachmann would ruin the country and should not consider running at all

 

And to the truely poor you can afford to pay more.

Where do you think those billions of dollars went? They were paid to their employees, and shareholders. Anything reinvested is not looked at as a profit and it wouldn't matter anyway because it would result in more profits. What happens to the moneypaid out to employees and shareholders? It gets taxed at the personal rate. It gets spent. It gets reinvested for a better retirement. The point is even if the corporation doesn't pay taxes on the money it still gets taxed to the person it is paid to sooner or later.

A republican thought process is to NOT involve government in the lives of everyday people. Although recently with the advent of the Neo-Cons the Republicans had taken a sharp turn to the left. Hopefully the Tea Party brings the Republicans back to the right.

 

the one major thing I dislike about the tea party is that when they talk they use words that encompass a broad ammount of americans, even though most americans dont share their views.

as to ge getting paying no taxes, I still think its wrong that middle class families pay taxes yet a huge company dosent pay any money at all, that makes no sence. GE lined up for government hand outs.

and im talking about rich people (making one million or more a year) they can afford to pay a little more.


and the republican thought process, well its based of romneys health care, so it was a republicans thought

 

And the Democrat and/or Liberals don't... (3x's for being a young buck). Welcome to politics.

Looks like GE is swimming in Obama's jockstrap. Welcome to the Democrat's approach to buying votes and contributions.

That job you've been looking for....forget about it.

A young soul and mind being corrupted by the news media. .

 

My thoughts exactly...

 

and thats your opinion, its cool. and no my mind isnt corrupted by the media, its just my views, obviously your views are conservative. say what you want about me but at least I like to be involved in politics. no one I know whos 16 wants to talk about it, but I enjoy it.