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For once I agree with Serotta! That's why no one checked the oil. A shortage of DIPSTICKS! Definitely no shortage in DC. They're ALMOST all dipsticks, on both sides of the isle. Whatever happened to public service service as it was in the early days of this country, when it was a SACRIFICE? Spend a couple of years in Washington helping run the country for the good of the people and then return to what you were doing for a living back home before you came to Washington. I'm not a Democrat, but that's one thing I have come to respect about Harry Truman, he did it for the good of the country, not for power or personal enrichment. He and his wife DROVE THEMSELVES back to Missouri to live in the same house they left when he came to Washington. Whether I agree with everything he did or not, I came to have TOTAL respect for the man. No enrichment, just true public service. (and unlike some, he didn't cart off all the WH china and silverware either!) 
Running to hide now, damn sure the Lord is going to try to smite me for agreeing with Code.
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Actually 2 terms is just about right to get something done ( if everyone was not using it as a life long place to collect a check and get favors ).
Then again, politicians might get elected to the 2nd term, and just work on stocking up favors, passing all sorts of crap, the swan song.
Guess it is better to get the bleeding over with vs the 30 years of a death of a thousand cuts.
What ever happened to this thought, I recall it being bantered about a while ago, but it died on the vine ?
Speaking of dying on the vine, how the heck did we get to term limits in a thread on oil price vs. fuel price and the associated reporting ??
From 1980 to 2005 the refining capacity dropped 10% ( from the peak ) and where is the usage at today ? I would say down, but that is pure supposition on my part...
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No issue with this.
Actually 2 terms is just about right to get something done ( if everyone was not using it as a life long place to collect a check and get favors ).
Then again, politicians might get elected to the 2nd term, and just work on stocking up favors, passing all sorts of crap, the swan song.
Guess it is better to get the bleeding over with vs the 30 years of a death of a thousand cuts.
What ever happened to this thought, I recall it being bantered about a while ago, but it died on the vine ?
Speaking of dying on the vine, how the heck did we get to term limits in a thread on oil price vs. fuel price and the associated reporting ??
From 1980 to 2005 the refining capacity dropped 10% ( from the peak ) and where is the usage at today ? I would say down, but that is pure supposition on my part...
Actually 2 terms is just about right to get something done ( if everyone was not using it as a life long place to collect a check and get favors ).
Then again, politicians might get elected to the 2nd term, and just work on stocking up favors, passing all sorts of crap, the swan song.
Guess it is better to get the bleeding over with vs the 30 years of a death of a thousand cuts.
What ever happened to this thought, I recall it being bantered about a while ago, but it died on the vine ?
Speaking of dying on the vine, how the heck did we get to term limits in a thread on oil price vs. fuel price and the associated reporting ??
From 1980 to 2005 the refining capacity dropped 10% ( from the peak ) and where is the usage at today ? I would say down, but that is pure supposition on my part...
You and I can't post in the same thread because we tend to wander?
Hummmm , if we ever get the two term limit you and I posting together can be a part of the pork.
Oh yeah, we were talking about Oil. I think the local Chinese buffet is using more oil in it's cooking than it used to. The stuffed mushroom caps were swimming in it, and the fried chicken wings were dripping so much I had to pat them down with a napkin. Definitely my last trip there!
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...<snip>....
Oh yeah, we were talking about Oil. I think the local Chinese buffet is using more oil in it's cooking than it used to. The stuffed mushroom caps were swimming in it, and the fried chicken wings were dripping so much I had to pat them down with a napkin. Definitely my last trip there!
Oh yeah, we were talking about Oil. I think the local Chinese buffet is using more oil in it's cooking than it used to. The stuffed mushroom caps were swimming in it, and the fried chicken wings were dripping so much I had to pat them down with a napkin. Definitely my last trip there!
How is that for OT.... I think we just gave this thread the kiss of death
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I don't think I need help with wandering, I do that myself. Might be due to the rudder being broken for the last 5 years.
Fun fact for the day, patting down something with the napkin does very little for the fat getting into your system, it is primarily a taste ( or holding on to ) thing.
How is that for OT.... I think we just gave this thread the kiss of death
Fun fact for the day, patting down something with the napkin does very little for the fat getting into your system, it is primarily a taste ( or holding on to ) thing.
How is that for OT.... I think we just gave this thread the kiss of death
See, it's guys like you that take the fun out of spending 65 years working on clogged arteries and a heart attack!
Yep, kiss of death for sure. Ole' Blue will be closing this for thread drift, hell continental drift is more like it.
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I think a 2 term limit should be imposed for all offices, local and federal. There should never be "Career Politicians". If you are making it a career you are serving yourself not the people.
Freaking Ted Kennedy was in office for 47 years just because he was a Kennedy. He did some good things over the years but I suspect that anyone that holds office for that long is bound to get a few things right. Even Obama might stumble across something useful in 47 years. We need more laborers, plumbers, electricians etc in office and less lawyers. Our representatives should represent all of us not just the elite few.
Freaking Ted Kennedy was in office for 47 years just because he was a Kennedy. He did some good things over the years but I suspect that anyone that holds office for that long is bound to get a few things right. Even Obama might stumble across something useful in 47 years. We need more laborers, plumbers, electricians etc in office and less lawyers. Our representatives should represent all of us not just the elite few.
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I think a 2 term limit should be imposed for all offices, local and federal. There should never be "Career Politicians". If you are making it a career you are serving yourself not the people.
Freaking Ted Kennedy was in office for 47 years just because he was a Kennedy. He did some good things over the years but I suspect that anyone that holds office for that long is bound to get a few things right. Even Obama might stumble across something useful in 47 years. We need more laborers, plumbers, electricians etc in office and less lawyers. Our representatives should represent all of us not just the elite few.
Freaking Ted Kennedy was in office for 47 years just because he was a Kennedy. He did some good things over the years but I suspect that anyone that holds office for that long is bound to get a few things right. Even Obama might stumble across something useful in 47 years. We need more laborers, plumbers, electricians etc in office and less lawyers. Our representatives should represent all of us not just the elite few.
Like you've never heard that before!!!!!
right on!
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So you're telling me when I fry eggplant in a half cup of olive oil and only pat out 1/4 of a teaspoon the rest is in the eggplant! Who would have know?
See, it's guys like you that take the fun out of spending 65 years working on clogged arteries and a heart attack!
Yep, kiss of death for sure. Ole' Blue will be closing this for thread drift, hell continental drift is more like it.
See, it's guys like you that take the fun out of spending 65 years working on clogged arteries and a heart attack!
Yep, kiss of death for sure. Ole' Blue will be closing this for thread drift, hell continental drift is more like it.
Don't think it would be closed ( no real MF'ing going on ) , but continental drift, that is an understatement.
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Change is never easy. We DO have to get things going with alternative energy.
Carter was trying to get us to do energy conservation in the 1970s. We didn't listen and the decadent 80s led to us move toward bigger and more powerful vehicles without regard to fuel consumption.
Like it or not we have a lot of tough and painful decisions to make toward our oil consumption, our spending, changing to renewable energies, and many other things. While we may not be ready for change, it may not be our choice. It is kind of like a person who has gained a 100LBS but still insists on fitting in their old jeans. Something has to give!
As long as oil flows and is affordable, why change?
Carter was trying to get us to do energy conservation in the 1970s. We didn't listen and the decadent 80s led to us move toward bigger and more powerful vehicles without regard to fuel consumption.
Like it or not we have a lot of tough and painful decisions to make toward our oil consumption, our spending, changing to renewable energies, and many other things. While we may not be ready for change, it may not be our choice. It is kind of like a person who has gained a 100LBS but still insists on fitting in their old jeans. Something has to give!
As long as oil flows and is affordable, why change?
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How's that for swerving OT?
Really though, Obama might be getting passed over for the blame for high fuel prices (even though I can constantly here him say, as I see the amount I'm going to have to pay at the pump, "energy prices will necessarily SKYROCKET") but they are already causing injury to the small company that I work for. We should have been "drill baby drilling" fifteen years ago.
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You can't blame Obummer for that one totally. You can go back to Mr. Bush (the great conservative hero under whom gas prices SPIKED and our National Debt Doubled and whose administration dropped the ball and let 9/11 happen, and blah blah blah) as he should have gotten the big rigs out in full effort in * years!!!
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Wit and Kmac have earned their stripes and swerve us back to the topic with a minor injection of humor.
SSCULLY has proven to be cerebral and witty as he meanders back and forth between OT and well, OT. (don't blame me SS)
BUT, Norm summed it up best... sit back and enjoy MB, your turn will come!
SSCULLY has proven to be cerebral and witty as he meanders back and forth between OT and well, OT. (don't blame me SS)
BUT, Norm summed it up best... sit back and enjoy MB, your turn will come!
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...<snip>....Obama might be getting passed over for the blame for high fuel prices (even though I can constantly here him say, as I see the amount I'm going to have to pay at the pump, "energy prices will necessarily SKYROCKET") but they are already causing injury to the small company that I work for. We should have been "drill baby drilling" fifteen years ago.
It is clear in this thread, the "blame game" was pointed at why the MSM was roasting the "oil baron" the last time prices went up but not this POTUS.
I say obvious, as those who do not see a problem with it ( or just want to move on ) are on 1 side of the isle, and those who see it as a 'hey wait a min. why is it OK for him, and not the last one' are on the other side.
So with the refining capacity being 10% off the peak ( if the source used above is actually correct, there was not a 3 source fact verification done on it yet ), when was the peak ?
I would have thought prior to 2005, but this is supposition on my part. This is from the state of the economy. I still notice a drop in traffic on the road overall.
In comparing the peak prior to 2005 to now, is there that much additional demand for fuel, that refining capacity is stressed ?
I have not had time to check the future contracts on refined fuel to know if there was a run up in them starting a few months back.
With oil prices being off the high, could be the US is ramping up demand, and the China and India are falling off ?? That would be the refineries are at capacity causing a supply and demand case ???