You can go on thinking that Super, I'm sure the SWAT units will completely agree with you.

You people are mainly bitching about increased taxes, get over it.

 

You seem to be forgetting one important fact:

Obama ran on a platform of universal healthcare. That was one of his three main campaign promises. He won solidly. I recall GWB claiming he won so solidly he had a "mandate" to carry out his stated agenda (which was to reduce government spending, reduce regulation and increase prosperity). He INCREASED deficit spending more than any president in the history of the US and deregulation has left our economy in shambles. In shambles! But he was sucessful in deregulation in favor of many financial and corporate interests. Unfortunately, we know the trickle down theory doesn't work.

Now Obama is doing exactly what we the people elected him to do and I hear a lot of complaints about "Washington power grabs", etc. Wake up people, he is doing exactly what a solid majority elected him to do.

If he DIDN'T get major health care reform passed people would claim he LIED about his true intentions, that he really doesn't want to carry out his campaign promises and achieve what WE THE PEOPLE elected him to do!

You may not have voted for him personally but a solid majority did and, like it or not, he is our democratically elected leader and he is carrying out his stated goals. It's not a Washington power grab, it's a grab of power by the citizen of the US. That's the way democracy works. Love it or leave it.

 

You show your age and ignorance when you make comments like this. If you think anything about this is "trivial" you are very mistaken.

You do realize "WE" fought a war over something as "trivial" as a tea tax right?

 

You're viewpoints are ________.

 

It was more than a tea tax, read the declaration of independence... tax is number 17 on the list of things we fought against.

 

Well s2krn, I can guarantee you this, if people start killing others over increased taxes, I will be on the governments side. You cry freedom, while I say radicals.

 

False assumptions and name calling is all you got, all you ever had.

 

Lack of a point and desperate straw grabs is all you ever have.

 

This argument is not valid and mute.

Do you believe in a society in which 51% of the people tell the other 49% what to do? Just like one of our famous founding fathers said, "Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep vote on what is for lunch. Freedom when the sheep votes with a gun"

If republicans were in the majority and told everyone to give all their money to the Iraq war, you would like that wouldn't you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL8CiUtXF0

This is why we have a republic, it sets a limit on government to protect freedom.

 

Someone is wearing an empty suit.

 

Do you realize how much "Pro Bono" work hospitals do? Every time an illegal immigrant gets treated at a hospital it is "Pro Bono". EVERY hospital "gives" away healthcare treatement everyday.

Methodist Hospital in Dallas Texas did approximately 40 million dollars worth of Pro Bono work for illegals in 2006. That doesnt count any of their other charitable works. That is one hospital in one city. All hospitals provide services for free to the under privledged. It's just not what most people want to hear so it isn't publicized.

I see patients get healthcare for free every day. I currently work for a "For Profit" hospital. Every day we receive patients without health coverage and they get the same treatment as every other patient. A few months ago I personally talked with one of our physicians, the CEO of our hospital, and a rep from Medtronic about donating services for gentleman without insurance. He got a 50K dolllar device implanted and got his entire stay and services "gratis".

Just because you don't hear about evil health care facilites charitable works doesn't mean it's not happening. I've worked in over 15 hospitals all over the country... it happens everywhere!

 

Not exactly. Some of us are sick about the evolvement away from the concept of controlling your own destiny, that made this country strong. It is no coincidence that this country is losing respect and it's identity and at the same time, people are becoming less self reliant and looking for the government or other tax payers to take care of them. It's an evolvement that has been going on for a few generations. We will either turn it around, or we will collapse and have to start all over again.

It's not just health care, it's every where you turn. There is a layer of people that say, why work, the governmet owes me, they will take care of me, and our government is proving them correct, unfortunately.

 

I am still waiting on why healthcare is a right that you never answered a long time ago?

No one answered it

 

My subtle point was back then it was a tipping point. I truly believe we are again at a tipping point.

 

Your only point is "The government says so". Well, we disagree with what the government is saying. I was just making a prediction. But I'm sure if this country has a retaliation you'll fight for the Govment. Just be sure you wear you're safety orange vest. Just as if you were hunting