anyone know the bible well and can write good essays?
You are correct on this analogy to your statement :
Like how you just drop this error, from your post, on the floor.
Would it be the Christians that owe reparations to the Muslims of the area for the Romans taking it in the 1st place, and later flying the "holy war" flag to try to reclaim what was not theirs in the first place ?
- See how the accounts of history can vary greatly from region to region ( and by extension religion to religion ) ?
As it has been told, the Roman Empire of the region switched to Christianity after they showed up in Istanbul.
I think it was Constantine himself that got on the holy land "band wagon" of region, and hitched his wagon to Christianity, as it was the largest of the religions, melding the 2 together.
This would be some time around 300 AD, which would coincide with the time the Christian bible was to have been written....
Almost sounds as if the Crusades are still alive and well, What happened to Religious freedom ?
Sounds like the Christians are a bit upset at the fact they are not going to be the primary religion in the world, and not have the primary center of power. Why else would they care if another religion is gaining ground ( and make the blood shed comments )
To make a overly generalized statement like this about another religion is just not the 'Christian thing to do'.
Like how you just drop this error, from your post, on the floor.
Would it be the Christians that owe reparations to the Muslims of the area for the Romans taking it in the 1st place, and later flying the "holy war" flag to try to reclaim what was not theirs in the first place ?
- See how the accounts of history can vary greatly from region to region ( and by extension religion to religion ) ?
As it has been told, the Roman Empire of the region switched to Christianity after they showed up in Istanbul.
I think it was Constantine himself that got on the holy land "band wagon" of region, and hitched his wagon to Christianity, as it was the largest of the religions, melding the 2 together.
This would be some time around 300 AD, which would coincide with the time the Christian bible was to have been written....

Almost sounds as if the Crusades are still alive and well, What happened to Religious freedom ?
Sounds like the Christians are a bit upset at the fact they are not going to be the primary religion in the world, and not have the primary center of power. Why else would they care if another religion is gaining ground ( and make the blood shed comments )
To make a overly generalized statement like this about another religion is just not the 'Christian thing to do'.
Christians that are familiar with Revelation and Ezekial know that Christianty will be on the wane towards the end of the age. It's all spelled out in the Bible. Jesus Christ even said, "When I return will I find faith on the earth."
It's always interesting that Christianity is always attacked more in these threads than the Muslims that tore down half of Manhattan and caused a worldwide recession. Further proof that Christianity is real. Peace.

P.S. The books of the Bible were written long before 300 AD.
Last edited by Frank S; Sep 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM.
Very well said Jack.
However, there are those among us (not mentioning any names Frank)
Who appreciate & enjoy the tolerance and understanding when it comes to their own religion, but fail to extend the same tolerance and understanding to other religions.
This is hypocrisy at its best.
It's this type of smug arrogance and condescending attitude that only serves to push people away.
"Respect my religion because I tell you it's true, but I'll bash the others"
I never understood this way of thinking.
This isn't to say that all Christians behave this way; there are plenty on these boards who do their thing, have respect for other people's beliefs and peacefully get along with everyone without attacking other belief systems, or purposely spreading lies or misinformation.
Those guys are cool and I'm fortunate to know them.
However, there are those among us (not mentioning any names Frank)
Who appreciate & enjoy the tolerance and understanding when it comes to their own religion, but fail to extend the same tolerance and understanding to other religions.
This is hypocrisy at its best.
It's this type of smug arrogance and condescending attitude that only serves to push people away.
"Respect my religion because I tell you it's true, but I'll bash the others"
I never understood this way of thinking.
This isn't to say that all Christians behave this way; there are plenty on these boards who do their thing, have respect for other people's beliefs and peacefully get along with everyone without attacking other belief systems, or purposely spreading lies or misinformation.
Those guys are cool and I'm fortunate to know them.
Here in America, people take for granted their religious freedoms.
I'm not the one that blamed the Muslins for starting the Crusades, that was you. And it is still wrong, read a history book. That is where I got my info...
I guess you forgot about the Christians that blew up a building in Oklahoma City then.
Maybe the other Christians that were blowing up garbage cans in London, killing innocent women and children.
Might want to check your back-drop before firing off. I think the Christians have a lot longer track record of Tyranny, oppression, and in general silencing of the public than the Muslims .
Don't know where you got that, might want to look at Constantine, and when he rulled.
Where is the tolerance in Islam? If you take an honest look at the countries like Iran, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc., Christians can't even practice their religion except privately in each others' houses without risking death, stoning, or having their houses burned to the ground. Interesting how the liberal news media rarely reports these things.
Here in America, people take for granted their religious freedoms.
Here in America, people take for granted their religious freedoms.
Last edited by SSCULLY; Sep 19, 2009 at 12:29 AM.
No Jealousy, just facts.
I'm not the one that blamed the Muslins for starting the Crusades, that was you. And it is still wrong, read a history book. That is where I got my info...
No a bunch of terrorists that happen to be Muslin tore down 2 building in Manhattan ( nice try at exaggeration though ).
I guess you forgot about the Christians that blew up a building in Oklahoma City then.
Maybe the other Christians that were blowing up garbage cans in London, killing innocent women and children.
Might want to check your back-drop before firing off. I think the Christians have a lot longer track record of Tyranny, oppression, and in general silencing of the public than the Muslims .
Don't know where you got that, might want to look at Constantine, and when he rulled.
You list countries that have rules different than the US's, yet you blame religion. Maybe you should place blame where it belongs, with the government.
I'm not the one that blamed the Muslins for starting the Crusades, that was you. And it is still wrong, read a history book. That is where I got my info...
No a bunch of terrorists that happen to be Muslin tore down 2 building in Manhattan ( nice try at exaggeration though ).
I guess you forgot about the Christians that blew up a building in Oklahoma City then.
Maybe the other Christians that were blowing up garbage cans in London, killing innocent women and children.
Might want to check your back-drop before firing off. I think the Christians have a lot longer track record of Tyranny, oppression, and in general silencing of the public than the Muslims .
Don't know where you got that, might want to look at Constantine, and when he rulled.
You list countries that have rules different than the US's, yet you blame religion. Maybe you should place blame where it belongs, with the government.
Read more history about the Turks and the Crusades. I'll let you do your own research on that.
"A bunch of terrorists that happen to be Muslim." Please tell me you are joking. I really do not intend to be deprecating to you, but you obviously do not understand much about the Muslim religion. I would suggest reading the Qur'an for yourself.
If Christians have a longer track record of Tyranny, please do some reasearch about the beliefs of the founding fathers of the country you currently live in. I think your mind has been colored by public school indoctrination.
The books of the New Testament of the Bible were written first century AD. Constantine had nothing to do with their authorship.
Read true history and your eyes will be opened. I sense you have an unadmitted deep hatred for Christians. Peace be with you.
Their are so many differnt views all coming from the same name, causing confusion, which Satan loves.
For those that believe that all the church wants is your money, maybe you should take a look at any of the stores you shop at, or other places you go tohear someone speak, you have to pay before you geting anything from them. We ask you to help us keep doing what we are doing after you are already in.
Just like any thing you can get people who are narrow minded and radical about what they believe.
For those that believe that all the church wants is your money, maybe you should take a look at any of the stores you shop at, or other places you go tohear someone speak, you have to pay before you geting anything from them. We ask you to help us keep doing what we are doing after you are already in.
Just like any thing you can get people who are narrow minded and radical about what they believe.
Oh, here we go, they said they were Christians, but you say they are not.
How about the IRA that terrorized London and Belfast, et all for years, same answer ? Yep, figured that....
Actually already did, and I used something other than the bible as my research material. You might want to read more about the Turks and the Romans. Oh, sorry same as the OK and UK bombers, in your eyes they really were not Christians. You admit it with the American Indians, but just can't give 1 cm on Muslims. And you wonder why a group of them hates Christians.
Don't need to read it, and from your posts I take it you read it and took away what you wanted to.
What me to start that with the bible ? Can show you it supported incestuous relationships. It is all is what you want to take away from it. And someone like yourself, that is clearly closed minded to any other religion could take away any kind of trash on your fellow man's religions. ( again not very christian of you )
Don't you mean, read your religion's version of History ?
No I do not have have a hatred for Christians ( as a wide generalization ), but I can tell you have an admitted hatred for any religion non-christian
Might want to get those 'sensors' of yours fixed, as they only seem to work pointing away from you.
This is what I was talking about, if you have to ask every week for forgiveness for what you do all week, change what you do all week.
Nope, not for you, continue on your Christian Jihad against anyone that does not believe what you believe to be true and right in religion.
This kind of outward pointing, self righteous attitude is what is driving people away from Christianity, and make an ever-growing group of a religion stronger every day.
How about the IRA that terrorized London and Belfast, et all for years, same answer ? Yep, figured that....
Actually already did, and I used something other than the bible as my research material. You might want to read more about the Turks and the Romans. Oh, sorry same as the OK and UK bombers, in your eyes they really were not Christians. You admit it with the American Indians, but just can't give 1 cm on Muslims. And you wonder why a group of them hates Christians.
What me to start that with the bible ? Can show you it supported incestuous relationships. It is all is what you want to take away from it. And someone like yourself, that is clearly closed minded to any other religion could take away any kind of trash on your fellow man's religions. ( again not very christian of you )
No I do not have have a hatred for Christians ( as a wide generalization ), but I can tell you have an admitted hatred for any religion non-christian
Might want to get those 'sensors' of yours fixed, as they only seem to work pointing away from you.
This is what I was talking about, if you have to ask every week for forgiveness for what you do all week, change what you do all week.
Nope, not for you, continue on your Christian Jihad against anyone that does not believe what you believe to be true and right in religion.
This kind of outward pointing, self righteous attitude is what is driving people away from Christianity, and make an ever-growing group of a religion stronger every day.
Here's a thought Frank,
Those responsible for 9/11 were not true Muslims.
So Scully takes the time to make a reasonable & sound reply, takes the time to write it all down, and that's your reply?
The guy proved you wrong on every point and now you're taking your ball and going home.
Peace be with you too Frank.
Those responsible for 9/11 were not true Muslims.
So Scully takes the time to make a reasonable & sound reply, takes the time to write it all down, and that's your reply?
The guy proved you wrong on every point and now you're taking your ball and going home.
Peace be with you too Frank.
We can all type super educated (or highly opinionated) blurbs about how we know this and how you don't know that, but in the end only One knows all the answers. You'd just better pray you've chosen wisely when your time comes.
And, if the motivation for following a religion is a "ticket into Heaven", then it also seems a bit misplaced.
- Jack
I think an attitude of tolerance trumps intolerance every time, and I'll put all my marbles in the tolerance basket. I see labeling any religion as a terrorist group of murderers as the height of intolerance. I have to ask: "Would Jesus do this"? "Would Buddha"? I don't even see Mohammad doing this, in spite of what's been ascribed to him by some on this forum.
And, if the motivation for following a religion is a "ticket into Heaven", then it also seems a bit misplaced.
- Jack
And, if the motivation for following a religion is a "ticket into Heaven", then it also seems a bit misplaced.
- Jack
I feel many people are two faced. They talk to people like crap when they go into a store, are aggressive on the road, but then sit there at church like life is just dandy and they are a saint. That ticks me off to no end. I am not religious but am not a jerk to people. I would rather be like I am than be fake and follow a religion that has become so commercialized. I'm sorry and not trying to offend people, but these religions are way too similar. I think they are stories that people told thousands of years ago a d were written down. There may be an all mighty power somewhere, but people take some things too far IMO and act one way during 6.5 days of the week and then at church they act another. Something is not right there.
Myself and a lot of my "brothers in arms" are openly Christians, so when we kill the terrorist that are FANATICAL Muslims does that make us right?
Were everyone was getting the 300ad thing was the roman empire held the council of Nicea near the end of the forth century. It was were a bunch of religious leaders got together and picked and chose what they wanted in the bible and what acts the wanted to allow and what to get rid of. this is were Christ mass was first established on the 25 of Dec to overlap with a pagan holiday so that the Roman emperor Constitine could push the Christian religion onto his people and move them away from there previous believes.
To me I see most "Christians" as Sunday morning warriors.
As jay said to silent bob "did you know that Jesus was a jew?"
Were everyone was getting the 300ad thing was the roman empire held the council of Nicea near the end of the forth century. It was were a bunch of religious leaders got together and picked and chose what they wanted in the bible and what acts the wanted to allow and what to get rid of. this is were Christ mass was first established on the 25 of Dec to overlap with a pagan holiday so that the Roman emperor Constitine could push the Christian religion onto his people and move them away from there previous believes.
To me I see most "Christians" as Sunday morning warriors.
As jay said to silent bob "did you know that Jesus was a jew?"







