My new PC that I bought in April has Vista 64, an i7 CPU and 12 gigs of ram, the thing runs like a champ, never had a problem with it.

I did hear that windows 7 will be much more stable for people experiencing Vista problems.

 

My Win98 machine still works today. It ran fine, once I figured out how to quit f'ing it up. I got a Windows 3.1 machine that still works, too. It worked even better when I got a book or two and figured out how it works, way back in 1990-something. Just like when I got a Win98 book and figured out what I was doing wrong. My XP machines run like a top too, once after some trial and error, I figured out what I was doing wrong. I look over some Vista machines for a few guys at work, and got them set up running happy and stable.

It's not the OS (unless it's Windows Me, I can't defend that turd). I've seen Macs crash before too, does that make them junk? Of course not.

Macs are great choice, and IMO for about 75% of computer users out there, they should be the only choice. My dad is about as old school as they get, and he wants a computer now to pay his bills and such online. If I could, I'd get him a Mac, 'cause I know I wouldn't really have to spent much time messing with things, getting printers to work or wireless internet to work and such.

Apple figures in a certain amount of stupidity amongst its users (this is a good thing - PCs are not for everyone, that's a given) and builds a computer that works pretty damn well around this.

 

I still have the Win98 machine. Gateway 2000 400 MHZ P2. It operates better now than my 2 year old Vista machine that is a dust collector now.

I was one of those people that used to crack jokes about MacBookPro users. Now I will never go back to a PC. Everything on this machine operates smoother and faster. Cost means nothing to me. It was the aggravation factor. The only advantage to a PC is cost.

I really love the fact that this MacBookPro doesn't even need a cooling fan. Slick.

 

Just went back and read some of your posts defending Vista. Why so touchy about all of the problems with it? It's common knowledge in IT circles that Vista is a monolithic failure.

 

Exactly!

Same here, sadly most computer users dont have enough fairly simple knowledge of a pc to use msconfig with out screwing it up further (again user). I have two pc's currently on vista and dont have never had a single problem with either one. Each run very fast, and flawless, and they are out of the box pc's, nothing upgraded.

About an hours worth of reading online of msconfig and such and most people would have good performing pc's, and some common sense would help too. I have dont some mistakenly sketchy things while on my computer but have never had an issue at all, so I dont baby mine, I put it to use. Make it work hard, but yet it never gives up. Now if I could just get a hdd to not die!

 

I have Vista, and really do enjoy using it. I haven't had any problems with it. I found that making sure to install the updates, and having antivirus software will keep your machines running smooth. RAM is a big factor too.

 

Vista is okay, I'm running the 64-bit Premium edition with 4GB DDR3 RAM and a 2.33GHz quad-core processor and a 1GB DDR2 PCI-e video card supporting my 23" widescreen on a DVI link.

I have noticed that its a PITA to edit administrator things (move control panel files) and having to click 3 things to allow what i know i already want to do. But I can't wait for my free copy of Windows 7 to arrive.

 

I wouldn't buy a Mac just because I would never want to be associated with the Apple Snobs, ya know, the people who always like to brag up their Macs with no actual facts to back it up.

 

IT guys still have to deal with a lot of stupid users, which goes back to my original point - it ain't the OS, it's the user.

 

Obviously your opinion makes you feel more intelligent.

 

It WAS a failure at launch, but as I said before, all the bugs/kinks/growing pains/whatever you want to call them have been worked out. At this point like he's saying, it's going to be user error more than anything else.

edit: and there's nothing wrong with OS X, my MBP is my main computer at this point. I only use Windows for dual booting purposes (MIS classes for school) or my HTPC rig (running XP, but switching over to Windows 7 once I get my MSDNAA subscription back)

 

No, it's just my opinion.

Another one of my opinions is that the Mac Evangelists are some really annoying people.

 

I know you're a sharp guy Frank but was that really necessary?
That was a ****ish thing to say.
The guy is just stating an opinion, there's really no need for that.

 

If you go back and re-read his posts, you will see he blames Vista problems on "stupid users."

Nearly everyone that I know has had problems with Vista at some point. If one has a problem with a product, it's foolish to keep giving them money. If it were only Vista, it would be fine. Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Like I said, I used to be one of those that thought Macs were a waste of funds.

 

With regards to the "stupid users" comment, I didn't mean it in a derogatory manner, I apologize if that's how it was interpreted. Maybe ignorant would have been a better term, or unaware. Vista does takes some time and effort to play around with and know what to do and what not to do. Most people don't wanna put that effort in to it.

Additionally, with the popularity of Vista (and Windows in general), by the numbers it's going to be the most exploited, the most troublesome, because there's so many out there. It's a target rich environment. Macs do their thing well because comparatively speaking, no one out there cares about most of them or their users.

My Windows machines work. Vista works, I know, I've seen them do it. And some of them don't work. If it universally was the OS, we'd all be screwed, about 360 million of the screwed being Vista users. So, what (or specifically, who) does that leave? Be honest with yourself here.

It's like, ZOMGWTFBBQ my Windoze ain't working right, stupid Microsoft, it's their fault.

Some maniac blows away a few of his coworkers on the job, blame the folks who manufactured the gun he used.

Someone flips an Explorer after a tire blows out, blame Ford and Firestone.

Someone buys a half a million dollar house despite knowing full and damn well they don't make enough money to live in that house and defaults on the loan, blame the realtor and the bank.

Someone can't figure out how to make the second most commonly used OS on the planet stable and reliable, blame the manufacturer of the OS.

It's easy to blame an inanimate object for one's problems; it's not so easy to accept that you may be causing the problems, and to sit down and try to rectify said problems.

For most PC users, for most Vista users, I think they'd be better off buying Macs. They (Macs) are very good at what they do.


Nearly everyone that I know that has had problems with Vista, they were self inflicted (other than like stupid little USB driver issues, Apple is king for that, they did a really nice job in that regard). How can you blame the OS or Microsoft for that?