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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Gov't at it's worst

Hopefully none of you have been the Gov't website Cars.Gov to find out what your old beater is worth as far as Cash for Clunkers go. If so, you must agree to a provision to have access to the website like any EULA. But here's the catch, if you didn't read it, you just signed over your computer, it's contents, to the Feds and to any foreign Gov't they chose to give the info to. Here's a news blip on it with full details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxmFTie-7k
 
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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What a joke. Change we can believe in.

By the lack of interest here I suppose nobody cares about the gov't commandeering your personal information and your life via the cash for clunkers program.
 

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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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What a laugh. Anyone who listens to those two airheads and doesn't pay attention to the "fine print", the little inserted phrase that said, "You go in to your Dealer and he goes to this website on his computer...."

That small disclaimer was quickly overshadowed by all sorts of dire warnings about what happens to your information on your computer which was never part of the equation!

Yep - let's see if we can't blow a lot of smoke and use a lot of mirrors.

Honestly, if you want to believe what a guy with a bad haircut and a babe with a lot of cleavage tells you - great! This is how the media manipulates us people! Wake up!

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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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gotta agree with jackandjanet on that one.

it specifically says dealer support at the top of the page and the loser doing the broadcast specifically states the DEALER goes to cars.gov. i also think that is just a general disclaimer. it protects the cars.gov website because it has to use the information sent over using that service. without the stated disclaimer someone could send something, find out what they sent was disclosed elsewhere and suddenly you have a lawsuit on your hands.

for no reason whatsoever should the personal computer in people's homes be affected by this.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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Glenn Beck, your are the epitome of fear mongering...
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
What a laugh. Anyone who listens to those two airheads and doesn't pay attention to the "fine print", the little inserted phrase that said, "You go in to your Dealer and he goes to this website on his computer...."
You are correct. The dealer is the one who is giving up ALL information on that particular computer to the US government. So that makes it OK?

The federal government has absolutely NO authority to seize any and all records from any private entity based on that entity's attempts to access federal funds. A mere warning on a website does not make that language law.

In case you have forgotten, the federal government works for us. We don't work for them.

In case you have not forgotten, I advise you not to step on my lawn.

Thinking like that demonstrates a direct violation of my private rights as a US citizen. Living in Texas, I have and will exercise my right to shoot those that try to steal from me that which is my own, ie... my rights.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
... Honestly, if you want to believe what a ... babe with a lot of cleavage tells you - great! ...
What's wrong with cleavage?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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It is my understanding anyone can go into the cars dot gov system and see what their car is worth (just like the dealer), $3500 or $4500. This would make their PC government property.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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I got to give Beck a pass on this one.
The cleavage threw him off his game.

When cleavage is talkin' I take it as gospel.
Actually, my response is "Huh?"
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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I just went there and I didn't see anything about having to agree to anything. I just asked for my car info and that's it.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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I just went there and I didn't see anything about having to agree to anything. I just asked for my car info and that's it.
Since it's a (dot)gov website, you automatically agree to their privacy agreement.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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I found this after a little more research.

Yea it's a bit scary to say the least!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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That is under the dealers section. The dealers must agree to their loss of privacy in order to complete the C.A.R.S. transactions.

Screw that man. That crap ain't right!


4th Amendment---
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I would say that this falls under unlawful search and seizure.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
Glenn Beck, your are the epitome of fear mongering...
Yet he's always right....maybe you should think about what your professors are spewing before you gulp down thier cool-aid.
 
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