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Labnerd Aug 2, 2009 12:22 PM

Gov't at it's worst
 
Hopefully none of you have been the Gov't website Cars.Gov to find out what your old beater is worth as far as Cash for Clunkers go. If so, you must agree to a provision to have access to the website like any EULA. But here's the catch, if you didn't read it, you just signed over your computer, it's contents, to the Feds and to any foreign Gov't they chose to give the info to. Here's a news blip on it with full details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxmFTie-7k

Stealth Aug 2, 2009 12:25 PM

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Stealth Aug 2, 2009 12:29 PM

What a joke. Change we can believe in.

By the lack of interest here I suppose nobody cares about the gov't commandeering your personal information and your life via the cash for clunkers program.

JackandJanet Aug 2, 2009 11:43 PM

What a laugh. Anyone who listens to those two airheads and doesn't pay attention to the "fine print", the little inserted phrase that said, "You go in to your Dealer and he goes to this website on his computer...."

That small disclaimer was quickly overshadowed by all sorts of dire warnings about what happens to your information on your computer which was never part of the equation!

Yep - let's see if we can't blow a lot of smoke and use a lot of mirrors.

Honestly, if you want to believe what a guy with a bad haircut and a babe with a lot of cleavage tells you - great! This is how the media manipulates us people! Wake up!

- Jack

chiefFX4 Aug 2, 2009 11:52 PM

gotta agree with jackandjanet on that one.

it specifically says dealer support at the top of the page and the loser doing the broadcast specifically states the DEALER goes to cars.gov. i also think that is just a general disclaimer. it protects the cars.gov website because it has to use the information sent over using that service. without the stated disclaimer someone could send something, find out what they sent was disclosed elsewhere and suddenly you have a lawsuit on your hands.

for no reason whatsoever should the personal computer in people's homes be affected by this.

4.6 Punisher Aug 3, 2009 12:49 AM

Glenn Beck, your are the epitome of fear mongering...

SleepyMax Aug 3, 2009 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 3826873)
What a laugh. Anyone who listens to those two airheads and doesn't pay attention to the "fine print", the little inserted phrase that said, "You go in to your Dealer and he goes to this website on his computer...."

You are correct. The dealer is the one who is giving up ALL information on that particular computer to the US government. So that makes it OK?

The federal government has absolutely NO authority to seize any and all records from any private entity based on that entity's attempts to access federal funds. A mere warning on a website does not make that language law.

In case you have forgotten, the federal government works for us. We don't work for them.

In case you have not forgotten, I advise you not to step on my lawn.

Thinking like that demonstrates a direct violation of my private rights as a US citizen. Living in Texas, I have and will exercise my right to shoot those that try to steal from me that which is my own, ie... my rights.

mtylerb Aug 3, 2009 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 3826873)
... Honestly, if you want to believe what a ... babe with a lot of cleavage tells you - great! ...

What's wrong with cleavage? :p

Stealth Aug 3, 2009 10:08 AM

It is my understanding anyone can go into the cars dot gov system and see what their car is worth (just like the dealer), $3500 or $4500. This would make their PC government property.

Raoul Aug 3, 2009 10:34 AM

I got to give Beck a pass on this one.
The cleavage threw him off his game.

When cleavage is talkin' I take it as gospel.
Actually, my response is "Huh?"

efuehrin Aug 3, 2009 11:28 AM

I just went there and I didn't see anything about having to agree to anything. I just asked for my car info and that's it.

screwyou Aug 3, 2009 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by efuehrin (Post 3827207)
I just went there and I didn't see anything about having to agree to anything. I just asked for my car info and that's it.

Since it's a (dot)gov website, you automatically agree to their privacy agreement.

efuehrin Aug 3, 2009 12:00 PM

I found this after a little more research.

Yea it's a bit scary to say the least!
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attac...1&d=1249268157

efuehrin Aug 3, 2009 12:05 PM

That is under the dealers section. The dealers must agree to their loss of privacy in order to complete the C.A.R.S. transactions.:eek:

Screw that man. That crap ain't right!


4th Amendment---

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I would say that this falls under unlawful search and seizure.

FX41 Aug 3, 2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher (Post 3826950)
Glenn Beck, your are the epitome of fear mongering...

Yet he's always right....maybe you should think about what your professors are spewing before you gulp down thier cool-aid.


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