Kilroy,
For your info I am still on active duty and yes I was in when Reagan was president. So your little outburst proves nothing, except what I had written before about you being abrasive.
Explain to me how the military is more prepared now when I have 16 helicopters sitting on the ramp and only 7 can fly because we are waiting on parts for the rest. We have steadily been going down hill since Clinton took over. We have half the people but we are deploying 4 times as much. Does this sound like things are getting better?
Now take a look at your pay. If Reagan gave us a 15%, an 8% and an average of 3% to 4% for the next 6 years how can that be less than an average of 2% to 3% for 8 years?
I'll bet ya you can't respond to this without being sarcastic or demeaning, because practically all the messages I have read from you have been attacks on someone. You really should get counseling, DUDE!
Dennis,
I can't disagree more on your comparisions of past and present presidents. Reagan and Bush did not do anything that even comes close to Clinton. Doing an intern in the Oval Office (more than once at that) shows me he has no respect for this country what so ever. As an elected official in the highest office in the U.S. his behaviour should be impeccable but, I am disgusted every time I see him on TV. So anyway my bubble is doing quite well, thank you
Is that our problem in today's society, we expect less from our representatives (Republican and Democrat) so they give us less?



[This message has been edited by 2000Lariat (edited 11-16-2000).]

 

Well knucklehead, bush and reagan didn't give raises EVERY year and there were never any pay raises as large as what you've claimed; more like 3-4% (there weren't any raises in '88, '89, or '91). As far as your parts in short supply, there wasn't any difference under bush or reagan. Supply people are usually rather sucky and contracts for military suppliers are influenced by a lot of other things than your Commander-in-Chief. With your living in a microcosm, I don't really expect you to know that. As for the morality that you can't quit harping on, reagan's love muscle didn't work and bush DID screw a campaign aid and replied rather vehemently, "NO COMMENT" when asked about it in '92. I realize your memory doesn't go back that far. Oh yeah, it's still not against the law for Clinton to mess around with fat interns or anyone else of his choosing. Now you may go and attend your John Birch Society meeting and drown your sorrows to the sounds of Rush Limbaugh and G. Gordon Liddy.

 

Kiljoy, if you are right, why does the military usually vote republican? From what you've said, I'd think the armed forces would vote democratic.

Obviously, different administrations are better for different people. That's why minorities, welfare, wealthy, pro-choice, pro-life, etc. usually lean heavily toward one party or the other.

 

Ok, I want to make a little comment on this. Maybe it's just a dog takin a **** on a sign. Just leave it at that, no "hidden" message at all. It could have been a Chow, or a bulldog, but it wasn't. It could have been any dog, it just happend to be a Schnauzer. Good grief, we don't have to go into Hitler stuff, and racist crap. Out of control people......

 

Ok - I think I've heard everything now - The ignorant comment by Dennis about the little dog & the sign is a perfect example of the bed-wetting, liberal, politically correct nonsense that is ruining this country today!
Gimme a break

 

I was visably shaken when I saw that photo. The symbolism was not lost on me. The lawn on which the sign is placed is covered with crabgrass, a clear reference to me as I have crabs.

I didn't post about the photo because I feel this is a private matter between me and my Doctor (and his nurse, Bathsheba).

 

Let me put it this way. When was the last time you saw a Miniature Schnauzer? It's not one of the most popular breeds. You're more likely to see a Sharpei or Beagle than a Miniature Schnauzer. The person setting up that picture could have used a German Shepherd, but that would have been too obvious.

Maybe it was coincidence, but in my book it was too much of a coincidence. Anybody posting that picture online is either bigotted or ignorant.

I'm not Jewish, if you're wondering, but I find that picture to be vile and now that you all have the knowlege that the dog is a Schnauzer and that it's a German breed, you still don't see anything wrong with that picture????

Most of us have relatives or family friends who fought in and some have given their lives to fight against the ***** in WWII. Why do we tolerate this kind of display in this country? Didn't we just celebrate Veteran's Day this past Saturday?

It's sick.

 

2000Lariat, the only President in recent history that I can feel comfortable about Not calling him a crook is Carter. Even then, I don't know for sure. He could have been lucky or more skillful at not getting caught than the others.

BTW, if you fly a lot on one of the big three commercial airlines, chances are you were flown by an ex-military pilot who just happens to be gay. I have a friend who is an ex-Navy pilot flying for one of the big 3 who happens to be gay and he says he's not alone. Oh yeah, he's also a Veteran of the Gulf War.

I went to a very tolerant high school. We had one guy who was openly gay. Nobody bothered him. When I was in college, there were a couple of guys in the dorm who were openly gay. Guess what? They were attending college on Uncle Sam's dime. They were Vietnam Veterans.

A few years ago, I had a store in a shopping center. We had a dispute over the calculation of our maintenance fee. The head of the association was the manager of one of the restaurants in the center. It was because of his work, that we discovered a discrepency that got us a refund of thousands of dollars and a reduction in our maintenance fees. He happened to be gay.

Yeah, gays affect me. So far, the gays I've met, especially while in business have all had a positive effect. The gay Vietnam Vets kept us fascinated for hours on end about what went on in Vietnam.

I know it's not a popular thing to do here on this board, but as you can tell, I'm not bothered by gays and people who are different like many of you are. I might be in the minority here or I might just be the only one with the guts to say it.

What does bother me to no end are narrow minded bigots and religious zealots who hide behind the Bible.



[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited 11-16-2000).]

 

I think we need to give the photo the benefit of the doubt. Someone probably just innocently snapped the picture while Pat Buchanan was out walking his dog.

 

Actually Dennis, The last time I saw a miniature schnauzer was at my uncle's house as he & my aunt have bred schnauzers for about 35 years. So I think that I "have the knowledge" of the origin of schnausers. By the way the aunt & uncle are W.A.S.Ps and not **** or of germanic descent. Imagine that!
But to get back to my origional point - WHO CARES!?!?!?! IT'S JUST A LITTLE DOG PEEING ON A SIGN!!!!!!!!!

And, oh yeah Raoul gets off another good one!

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So, now that you know it's a German breed and it's pissing on a sign with a Jewish name, it's JUST A DOG? It doesn't bother you at all? You're making it sound like I'm the bad guy here for noticing something that reeks of racial bigotry. Others here may not be sensitive to it. You may not have noticed it. But I did and I made my observations known and all you can say is that it's JUST A DOG?

One thing you gotta learn about pictures, especially pictures that are put out in public. What's on the face of the picture is not always the whole story. Lots of times, there's a subliminal message or symbol. Advertisers do it all the time.

You know, I don't go looking for these things, but for me they just seem to pop out and catch my attention and I let people know. I've never looked at a photograph and only noticed the main action going on. I like to look at what's going on in the background too. Sometimes, you see things that are funny. Sometimes disturbing.

I dunno. I guess it's my schooling. When you spend a lot of time in labs, looking through microscopes and running various diagnostic tests thru gas chromatographs, NMR, etc., you learn to look past the obvious. Comes in real handy when the lab TAs try to fool you.

At any rate, I'm stymied at your attitudes about the picture.

My Embryology prof was from Texas. I hated his guts, but he was a good teacher. He was the only science prof I ever had who only gave blue book exams. At any rate, he taught me a really valuable lesson. Learn to look at things from all angles. What's obvious is not always what's right and you can't write a one sided paper without acknowledging the other side.



[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited 11-16-2000).]

 

Dennis - I get it now. Only the SMART people see that sign for what it is. Well shucks, I didn't realize it was so hard being a genius.

Give me a break. Sometimes a dog is just a dog. You remind me of one of my wife's acquaintences who insists that line dancing is a fundamentalist Christian/racist backlash against minorities.

And I thought it was just dancing and good exercise.

 

I agree.

 

Well btr, the military is often dominated with individuals who do not keep abreast of current events and is led by officers who as individuals, could not make the cut in the civilian world and tend to impose their own personal views on members of their command. I fail to see, however, HOW the military would be better prepared and paid under bush's plan which calls for a defense budget of approximately HALF of what Clinton has spent. Maybe 2000Lariat has some kind of bizarro math-logic that he has learned from repeated Rush Limbaugh indoctrinations that he would care to impart to the rest of us. Further still, the question begs: if things are SOOO bad for you under Clinton, why don't you just get out and begin a civilian career, 2000Lariat? You could continue in the reserves and receive a retirement with prescription drug coverage, commissary privileges, and a small monthly stipend. In addition to your civilian 401K and retirement, I would think you'd be a lot better off. A man of your "talent" and experience is obviously wasting his time where you are now. You're just like the rest of those ditto heads on Rush; just a lot of talk. Bitch about the government and the Democrats, but you've sure got that hand out when the money comes.

 

I knew you couldn't do it Kilroy, you can't make a single statement without your "I'm mightier and smarter than anyone I talk to" attitude. Well, All hail Kilroy, the almighty knower of everything. Maybe you should have ran for president, since you know everything!
So since you say the military is better off under Clinton, why did you get out twit? You obviously have no dedication to anything, except being an a$$, which you do very well by the way. Actually, I'm glad you are out, the military and espicially the Navy do not need losers like you anyway, good riddance you POS.
Dennis,
I'm really glad he is on your side, because I would sure be embarrassed if he was on mine, my condolences to you