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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Ex-cop accused in shooting arrested in Nevada


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Alameda Country District Attorney Tom Orloff said he would not speculate on whether the charge would end up being first-degree murder or second-degree murder.
"At this point, what I feel the evidence indicates, is an unlawful killing done by an intentional act and from the evidence we have there's nothing that would mitigate that to something lower than a murder," Orloff said at a news conference announcing the charge
 

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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you should see the riots from all this. little crazy.

Another protest scheduled today. We'll see what happens.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Ok, most of you caught it but some did not, this is a shoot/don't shoot training video. As the suspect lays down the rifle he pulls a pistol out of his waistban. Good shoot but it looks to some as he was surrendering. The point? Looks can be deceiving and split second decisions are EXTREMELY hard to make.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
Ok, most of you caught it but some did not, this is a shoot/don't shoot training video. As the suspect lays down the rifle he pulls a pistol out of his waistban. Good shoot but it looks to some as he was surrendering. The point? Looks can be deceiving and split second decisions are EXTREMELY hard to make.
agreed, but thats not what happened with thise case, so the point is somewhat moot. In your video, the man was armed. That right there shows enough reason to shoot. Period. Don't walk around with a rifle expecting a good day. With the Bart case, the man was unarmed, already detained. See the difference ? One situation, the cops have control, and shoot. The other, the cops are still trying to gain control, and shoot. Also, in your video, when the man is shot, he is still in a position to inflict severe harm to the officers real quick, as opposed to the boy, with his arms held down, knee on his head, and in his back. he was subdued. Nothing more he could do, yet he was shot.

Completely different scenarios, in totally different situations. Split decisions are hard, but watch closely. The officer isn't holding his gun for a "split second" but for a slightly longer period of time. More then enough time to realize its not a tazer. He had no trigger finger discipline it seems. Just what it looks like to me. And so you all know, there are multiple angles on this shooting. Some other people shot video as well. I personally think its an accident. He did wrong by hiding, and showing his cowardness. These actions have shown far more about his character then the shooting itself. This man is scum. plain and simple. He is what you find when you scrape out the bottom of the barrel.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Shot and killed a man.
Refused to talk with the investigators.
Resigned from his job.
Left the state due to the magnitude of the incident?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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I had heard he was moved to Nevada for security reasons.Death threats against him and his family and what not. No excuse, but it wasn't him running and hiding, or thats what I had heard anyways.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
agreed, but thats not what happened with thise case, so the point is somewhat moot. In your video, the man was armed. That right there shows enough reason to shoot. Period. Don't walk around with a rifle expecting a good day. With the Bart case, the man was unarmed, already detained. See the difference ? One situation, the cops have control, and shoot. The other, the cops are still trying to gain control, and shoot. Also, in your video, when the man is shot, he is still in a position to inflict severe harm to the officers real quick, as opposed to the boy, with his arms held down, knee on his head, and in his back. he was subdued. Nothing more he could do, yet he was shot.

Completely different scenarios, in totally different situations. Split decisions are hard, but watch closely. The officer isn't holding his gun for a "split second" but for a slightly longer period of time. More then enough time to realize its not a tazer. He had no trigger finger discipline it seems. Just what it looks like to me. And so you all know, there are multiple angles on this shooting. Some other people shot video as well. I personally think its an accident. He did wrong by hiding, and showing his cowardness. These actions have shown far more about his character then the shooting itself. This man is scum. plain and simple. He is what you find when you scrape out the bottom of the barrel.
Originally Posted by anaheim_drew
You guys are both completely wrong. According to some people in this thread, it's BS if a cop would do something unjustified.
I hope the scumbag fries for what he did, things like that are one huge reason that causes more incidents in the future by breedig a hatred of police who act like that and abuse power/authority in the general public and are more likely to lead toward non-cooperative people in the future.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Wrong?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
Ok, most of you caught it but some did not, this is a shoot/don't shoot training video. As the suspect lays down the rifle he pulls a pistol out of his waistban. Good shoot but it looks to some as he was surrendering. The point? Looks can be deceiving and split second decisions are EXTREMELY hard to make.
Along with the gun visible when he fell the other cop yelled gun. The yelling gun could be a legitimate warning to others and it could also get someone shot unjustified.

This is why we have to trust the cops so when there is doubt they will get the benefit of it. When they close ranks, go close minded, act like they cant make a mistake or go aggressive....it kills their image and peoples trust.

What is puzzling is that Black men kill each other by the hundreds annually in the US and barely a peep from the vocal public other than family outrage.
A cop kills 1 Black man in a city and all hell breaks loose.
1 vs 100 is pretty sorry odds.

Being Black in the innercity, im more worried about black on black crime than I am police brutality.
Sad state of affairs in America.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by anaheim_drew
Wrong?
Sarcasm. I don't really think the opinion bolded in the statement you quoted was wrong at all.
 
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