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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Looks like a power trip gone bad to me. I wasn't there, but unless that guy actually had some sort of weapon that he was actually going to use on someone right then, this should be murder 1. It would be hard to convince anyone that shooting him was necessary to incapacitate him with the way he was already restrained.
Rodney King! Rodney King! Rodney King!

pmason718, I agree with you. Totally unjustified unless there was something more going on that we couldn't see, and even being a grainy p.o.s. video, we could see that he was restrained by the other officer. I call BS on using deadly force in this situation.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun04screw
Yes! What type of punishment I really don't know.
Look at it this way we work with our tools which happens to be a pistol. Lets say a fork lift operator accidently runs over someone due to a mistake do you throw him in jail for life, treat him like a criminal, i dont think most people would. I could go on and on. I think he should not be a peace officer every again but beyond that i don't know.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Wow.. some amazing things are being said here. Why is it cops are always wrong? You can not get the information you guys are spouting from that crappy video. Your making assumptions.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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If the guy had a 4 year old daughter, Why was he getting into fights on the subway?

I don't know what happened, It's not up to us to judge, we are not witnesses. But it comes down to this, keep your nose clean, and things like this wouldn't happen in the first place.

I do like SmokeyBears comments, as he seems to know this routine quite well, but this is planet earth. ANYTHING can happen.

Ever think the officer saw something first, before the others did? He could have also thought he saw something.

I do not pretend to know the ammount of stress a cop or even a soldier faces on a daily basis, and these guys, though out to protect, will always get ripped apart for their every move, no matter the circumstance.

I haven't seen anyone here judge the cop innocent of anything, but you guys yelling to have this guy burned at the stake don't have a clue, and act like you were the assisting officers, or the fellow detainee's.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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BART police officer who fatally shot man resigns
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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He was scheduled for an interview with authorities today. He was a no show. Its on the news right now. Interesting turn....
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Yeah I see plenty of the other Cops defending him. What do you expect from them with their criminal mentality? How many times do they cover for each other’s crimes?

Oh we citizens are not supposed to judge.... not until the police union’s lying lawyers get together with the scumbag to concoct a story with their own “facts”.

The family of that murdered man is very lucky that there were witnesses and at least some video, otherwise it would have been reported completely differently.

You know had this Cop come out right away and said; “I made a horrible mistake" and then explained what happened, you could feel some empathy, but no, he says nothing, slinking away like a Yellow bellied dog through the high grass into his lawyer’s arms. Like some kind of snitch who would sell out his brother to save his own gutless hide. I bet half the people in prison would have more honor.


Chew on that.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Yeah I see plenty of the other Cops defending him. What do you expect from them with their criminal mentality? How many times do they cover for each other’s crimes?

Oh we citizens are not supposed to judge.... not until the police union’s lying lawyers get together with the scumbag to concoct a story with their own “facts”.

The family of that murdered man is very lucky that there were witnesses and at least some video, otherwise it would have been reported completely differently.

You know had this Cop come out right away and said; “I made a horrible mistake" and then explained what happened, you could feel some empathy, but no, he says nothing, slinking away like a Yellow bellied dog through the high grass into his lawyer’s arms. Like some kind of snitch who would sell out his brother to save his own gutless hide. I bet half the people in prison would have more honor.


Chew on that.
I chewed on that.. . Your rush to judgement really stinks. Every cop is a bad cop in your eyes it sounds like. What a way to live
 

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pickup Man
Looks like a power trip gone bad to me. I wasn't there, but unless that guy actually had some sort of weapon that he was actually going to use on someone right then, this should be murder 1. It would be hard to convince anyone that shooting him was necessary to incapacitate him with the way he was already restrained.
Rodney King! Rodney King! Rodney King!

pmason718, I agree with you. Totally unjustified unless there was something more going on that we couldn't see, and even being a grainy p.o.s. video, we could see that he was restrained by the other officer. I call BS on using deadly force in this situation.
Rodney King deserved every bit of the beating he got. He kept trying to get up. He resisted. You think the police where rough on ole drug addict rodney? Then why didn't they beat the black man that was in the back seat of the police cruiser at that time?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
Rodney King deserved every bit of the beating he got. He kept trying to get up. He resisted. You think the police where rough on ole drug addict rodney? Then why didn't they beat the black man that was in the back seat of the police cruiser at that time?
Oh I see, Rodney King deserved to be beaten by the Gestapo, for not pulling over, but the White collar criminals, who bankrupt the country, and the countless corrupt politicians, are given a pass or a slap on the wrist. We don’t see them on the Cops TV show do we?

You better wake up, because one day, maybe in a case of mistaken identity, the Gestapo may give you a beating or put a bullet in your head.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun04screw
Yes! What type of punishment I really don't know.
Look at it this way we work with our tools which happens to be a pistol. Lets say a fork lift operator accidently runs over someone due to a mistake do you throw him in jail for life, treat him like a criminal, i dont think most people would. I could go on and on. I think he should not be a peace officer every again but beyond that i don't know.
I don't think that's a good example because the purpose and training of a fork truck driver is not to use the fork truck for deadly force.

On the other hand, the training of an officer and his/her firearm is to use the firearm for deadly force when conditions exist for that last resort level of force. You don't draw down on someone with a loaded chamber and finger on the trigger with the safety off unless you are prepared to use deadly force on that individual and you have a damn good reason to do so.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Oh I see, Rodney King deserved to be beaten by the Gestapo, for not pulling over, but the White collar criminals, who bankrupt the country, and the countless corrupt politicians, are given a pass or a slap on the wrist. We don’t see them on the Cops TV show do we?

You better wake up, because one day, maybe in a case of mistaken identity, the Gestapo may give you a beating or put a bullet in your head.
So tell me... why didn't rodney's freind get beat? Have you really looked at that video? Ole rodney kept getting to his knees. He wouldn't stay down. What are the cops supposed to do with a high crack head? And don't even bring up how the democrats ruined the economy after the 2006 mid terms.. that just doesn't apply to this case.

Oh... btw.. I will never get beat by cops. I don't do things wrong that deserve it. My oldest son got his *** beat by the cops. He was in the hospital for 3 days because of internal injuries. And a nice boot print on his face. The little *** deserved it for arguing and not co operating with the cops after he beat his girl friend. Don't even come at me with "police brutality" It is nearly non existant.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
So tell me... why didn't rodney's freind get beat? Have you really looked at that video? Ole rodney kept getting to his knees. He wouldn't stay down. What are the cops supposed to do with a high crack head? And don't even bring up how the democrats ruined the economy after the 2006 mid terms.. that just doesn't apply to this case.

Oh... btw.. I will never get beat by cops. I don't do things wrong that deserve it. My oldest son got his *** beat by the cops. He was in the hospital for 3 days because of internal injuries. And a nice boot print on his face. The little *** deserved it for arguing and not co operating with the cops after he beat his girl friend. Don't even come at me with "police brutality" It is nearly non existant.
Yes I saw the King video. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason he kept trying to get up was because he could not think right while eight people were beating the hell out of him?

Those Cops that beat him are no better than the Cops who turned dogs on civil rights protesters or the ones that execute people all over the world.

You ever see videos where the Police are out numbered or in serious trouble? Suddenly they are not so big and bad as when they have the upper hand.
Then you see their true character.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dr. Franko
yes i saw the king video. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason he kept trying to get up was because he could not think right while eight people were beating the hell out of him?

Those cops that beat him are no better than the cops who turned dogs on civil rights protesters or the ones that execute people all over the world.

You ever see videos where the police are out numbered or in serious trouble? Suddenly they are not so big and bad as when they have the upper hand.
Then you see their true character.
yeah!!! Down with cops!! Give it to the man!!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
yeah!!! Down with cops!! Give it to the man!!
No just some accountability.

I get tired of the "they can do no wrong" mantra.

But then this is just tool, that is employed by the ruling class, in its efforts to keep the lower classes in line.




I thought I could rile some inhabitants into a combative state, but alas, the place is dead.
 

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