Has anyone been hearing about this in the news? It has caused and outrage in SF

http://www.ktvu.com/video/18409133/index.html

Please watch the video and form your opinion

 

I know from experience that it doesn't take two or three officers to place a cooperative suspect in handcuffs, something doesn't look right and it could be the officers or it could be something going on with the subjects, not enough info to come to any conclusion.

With no details it's hard to make a judgement call on the shooting but I will say that just because someone is putting their hands in the air does not mean they are cooperating.

 

looks like its gonna be a big problem for that guy though, the video makes it look like he was cooperating as best a guy can with 2 guys laying their knees in the back. sure looks like he surprised the hell out of the other cops too.

 

I wonder if he meant to go for his tazer?

 

No way in hell. He meant to shoot that kid. That's f'd up.

 

Yeah, cause you were there. The only "no way in hell" comment you can make is that there is no way in hell that we know what was going on, the kid could have been screaming, "i'm going to shoot you, I have a gun." on the other hand he could have been, "please don't hurt me, I'll do anything you need."

The officer that shot, did look like he suprised the other officers, so maybe he ment to scare the kid and forgot about trigger dicipline. Maybe he caught his wife banging another man that day and wanted to off someone. who knows.

How about if you don't want to get shot by cops, don't put cops in a position where they would ever feel like they need to draw their weapon?

 

It looked like he went for the gun and had trouble getting it out...maybe he feared another person was gonna pull it or my best guess is he thought he went for a tazer....equally possible he meant to put he gun to the kid to scare him but the squirming and adrenaline made him accidentally pull the trigger.

 

Watch the video again and listen to the witness. Your contradicting yourself. Who cares if he caught his wife banging another man, that still doesn't give him the right to shoot someone. That cop pulled his gun, stood up and pulled the trigger.

 

No not you too. What is it that you don't see. What's with all this scaring people stuff. This is not a movie, this is not a joke. Police are supposed to protect and serve, besides there were several cops present. This was not necessary at all.


Watch the other videos. Prior to pulling his gun he had his tazer out already.

 

The witness doesn't know what that guy was saying either. I am not contradicting myslef, I'm simply saying that we have NO idea what was going on there. Of course if this guy was pissed at the world, he doesn't have the right to be pulling his weapon and killing people. I'm saying you don't have anymore information than anyone else, and have no right to blame the officer outright.

 

Again. Watch the other videos. Whether we were there or not he had no right to do that and this is what it all boils down to.

 

First off the media and the public are always the first to point the blame at the police. If they wanted to help so much, you don't release videos like this until after the investigation is conducted and ALL the facts are gathered. What this "witness" just did was point the finger at the officer(s) when she has NO CLUE what is happening right there and now. Anyone can guess from a far but until you are in that position, you will never understand.
Officers are trained to carry their tasers on the opposite side of their firearm so that issues of mistakenly drawing your duty weapon will not take place. I can not say exaxtly why he drew his weapon and fired....BUT what I can say is I have personally been in situations where struggling with a suspect and to the bystander everything may seem as if the officers have control, but then you may spot a knife or gun on a struggling suspect. If you do not take IMMEDIATE action, the loss of life could be your own or your fellow officers. I've had multiple incidents were a suspect was calm while conducting a pat down, but as soon as you reach the area where they could possible be hiding something, a switch is flipped in their brain and all they want to do is get away or fight you. The media and the public also do not realize that officers are trained to shoot to kill...NOT WOUND! If you are going to use deadly force, it is suppose to be deadly. I absolutely hate when I hear people say "why didn't he shoot him in the leg or arm?" Because it is hard to shoot appendages in the first place, and if you know anything about shooting you are always taught to aim for center mass....it is the biggest part of the body and less likely to miss.
Tasers have saved my life and the lives of SUSPECTS many times but that's a whole other rant. As far as what happened here, please understand the officers point of you as I have explained, we put ourselves in dangerous situations everyday that the general public does not have to be put in and we have to make split second decisions that most people could not in the same situation.

Yes the officer could be wrong but we do not know all the facts. What appears to be happening can be very deceitful and what is actually happening can be the total opposite.

 

What I saw was an officer who pulled his weapon when he didn't have to. I saw an officer shoot a man who was already contained by other officers. I saw an officer that shot a man put his hands to his head like " what the hell did I just do". I see a bleak future for the officer and the family of the slain man. This should not have happened regardless of what anybody might having been screaming at the time. Words don't kill you but other people, including police officers, can. There are some folks that aspire to be police officers yet are not officer material. This appears to be the case with this officer. He failed with his training and should have never been wearing the badge.

 

Dam. We must have the same eye doctor.

 

I didn't say it was right. Sheesh bro I am neither defending the cop nor condemning him. I did have that initial feeling that it was inappropriate and seemed out of place but with the shotty camera and lack of more info I am reserving any definite judgment. Sucks but stuff happens.