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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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If what his uncle said is true it's pretty bad.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
Do you need a tall glass of calm down juice?
Does beer qualify?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Does beer qualify?
What else would I be talking about?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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I remember back as a sophomore in highschool in drivers ed when the Illinois sheriff came to talk to us in class. He always reitrated the fact to stay calm and dont do anything stupid if you have a run in with the police. He said his worst fear is getting shot. Thats what he is thinking about when he pulls someone over everytime. If your job required you to go out and deal with dangerous people and possible murderers and put your life on the line, i would feel the same way. But, indeed he shouldnt have reacted the way he did. But, accidents like these would not happen if people abided by the law and showed respect for others. It would make police officers lives a little easier and less stressful especially in larger cities when anything could happen at any time.

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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Alright, Smokey lets hear it.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
So tell me... why didn't rodney's freind get beat? Have you really looked at that video? Ole rodney kept getting to his knees. He wouldn't stay down. What are the cops supposed to do with a high crack head? And don't even bring up how the democrats ruined the economy after the 2006 mid terms.. that just doesn't apply to this case.

Oh... btw.. I will never get beat by cops. I don't do things wrong that deserve it. My oldest son got his *** beat by the cops. He was in the hospital for 3 days because of internal injuries. And a nice boot print on his face. The little *** deserved it for arguing and not co operating with the cops after he beat his girl friend. Don't even come at me with "police brutality" It is nearly non existant.
Sure thing, people make mistakes every day, but absolutely nobody with a badge would ever abuse their power. Are you high? Not every cop is bad, but on the same hand it would be pretty stupid to say that brutality is non-existant.
Oh, and they could have held him down ad shackled him, tasered him, a few different things other than get angry and take their aggression out on Rodney King.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cajun04screw
You might be right on the example, but i was just trying to say its a tool we use. Yes his first mistake was drawing his firearm, the second was accidently discharging it into to the kid.

As cajunjosh said the days of getting over with excessive use of force are over. You would be amazed of how much chit i have in a patrol car to track every freaking move i make, gps computer, cameras, mike on uniform records every freaking word i say. And talk about incident reports, there's a form for everything we might do. Boy I miss the good old days, just a few more years and I'm out of here.
Sure thing. Like I said, I am sure that there are some good cops out there, and thank God for that, but let's not say that it can't happen. In my hometown, a 21 year old kid gets a job as a cop, his third week there, he pulls over an 80 year old man suspected of DUI. The man reaches under his front seat for his wallet, and the cop gets scared and drags him out of the car through the window, breaking his collarbone and hip as he does this. The man lays there writhing in pain with other cops looking on (this is in a well-lit parking lot in town, on camera with witnesses) and he cusses the kid for hurting him. The cop handcuffs the man, then searches the car, leaving the man laying there. Finds nothing in the car, and the old man again cusses the cop. The cop gets mad, red-faced mad and proceeds to punch the old man in the face more than 20 times, until the man dies. The man was unarmed, severely injured, 80 years old and drunk. Is it brutality to get so mad you beat him to death with your bare hands? I think so. Police investigation? It was excessive force, suspended one week with pay. Still a cop today. That was last year. Can police still get away with it? Hell yes. As long as there are rules, there will be buttholes who break those rules.
There are good guys out there, but let's not pretend that it is impossible to abuse your express authority.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FX41
I know what we should do, even though these men put their lives on the line and have to walk the streets while we sleep all cosy in our homes, the second that they make a mistake they should be hanged.
That's a pretty costly "mistake". Someone died, it's not like he put the milk on top of the bread and eggs in your grocery bag. If I was defending my family out on that street and pulled my gun to show force and accidentally shot him, would my butt be in jail for murder? Sure would. Unless that guy was armed and had potential to KILL an innocent person at that moment, that cop's butt should be in jail for murder where he belongs, too.
Thanks for doing your job, police men and women, but you should also be subject to the law, especially murder.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pickup Man
Sure thing. Like I said, I am sure that there are some good cops out there, and thank God for that, but let's not say that it can't happen. In my hometown, a 21 year old kid gets a job as a cop, his third week there, he pulls over an 80 year old man suspected of DUI. The man reaches under his front seat for his wallet, and the cop gets scared and drags him out of the car through the window, breaking his collarbone and hip as he does this. The man lays there writhing in pain with other cops looking on (this is in a well-lit parking lot in town, on camera with witnesses) and he cusses the kid for hurting him. The cop handcuffs the man, then searches the car, leaving the man laying there. Finds nothing in the car, and the old man again cusses the cop. The cop gets mad, red-faced mad and proceeds to punch the old man in the face more than 20 times, until the man dies. The man was unarmed, severely injured, 80 years old and drunk. Is it brutality to get so mad you beat him to death with your bare hands? I think so. Police investigation? It was excessive force, suspended one week with pay. Still a cop today. That was last year. Can police still get away with it? Hell yes. As long as there are rules, there will be buttholes who break those rules.
There are good guys out there, but let's not pretend that it is impossible to abuse your express authority.
RAISING THE FLAG. That has got to be one of the biggest BS stories EVER told. There is no freaking way in hell that would have gone down like that.

With all the crazy lib libs making sure the criminals have more rights than the cops, and our lovely media there is absolutely no chance in hell the cop wasn't crucified for something like that.

You honestly have to question your own competence if you even believe a story that grand.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pickup Man
That's a pretty costly "mistake". Someone died, it's not like he put the milk on top of the bread and eggs in your grocery bag. If I was defending my family out on that street and pulled my gun to show force and accidentally shot him, would my butt be in jail for murder? Sure would. Unless that guy was armed and had potential to KILL an innocent person at that moment, that cop's butt should be in jail for murder where he belongs, too.
Thanks for doing your job, police men and women, but you should also be subject to the law, especially murder.
I agree with you 100%. Chances are this guy will go to jail for murder. If you killed someone with a ccw, and couldn't prove that your life was in danger, yeah, it would be a hard case to win. Cops should, in my opinion, be held to a higher standard of the law. What really grinds my gears is when nobody knows whats going on, they see a grainy cell phone video, and start rioting in the streets and calling for the guy to be charged with murder. Yeah the guy was probably wrong, but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
RAISING THE FLAG. That has got to be one of the biggest BS stories EVER told. There is no freaking way in hell that would have gone down like that.

With all the crazy lib libs making sure the criminals have more rights than the cops, and our lovely media there is absolutely no chance in hell the cop wasn't crucified for something like that.

You honestly have to question your own competence if you even believe a story that grand.
Big Stone Gap, VA. Bruce Riggs is the victim's name, Eddie Phillips is the cop's name. Research it for yourself and let me know exactly what happened, even though I was in the parking lot at the gas station when this punk cop punched the old man to death.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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Yes well what we need is more of a Police State here in America. The lower classes will be supplicant to the Paramilitary Police squads who will carry out the will of the State. The press will be sanctioned by the State and will only report items that can be constructed to show that the Police have acted in an acceptable manner.

Those individuals who speak out against Police actions will quickly find themselves e jailed for their “liberal ideals” or they will simply disappear and no longer be a threat to the State.

The Politicos, White collar criminals, corrupt Governmental officials and others of means and proper connections will be dealt with in a more genteel fashion. Perhaps their lawyers will receive a phone call from the State informing them that arrangements need to be made for suitable restitution or they will be subject to a lawsuit or face a minor jail term in one of the less thorough “reeducation facilities” maintained by the State to deal with subversive liberal types.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Guys like these is the reason my view of cops is very negative
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Yes well what we need is more of a Police State here in America. The lower classes will be supplicant to the Paramilitary Police squads who will carry out the will of the State. The press will be sanctioned by the State and will only report items that can be constructed to show that the Police have acted in an acceptable manner.

Those individuals who speak out against Police actions will quickly find themselves e jailed for their “conservitive ideals” or they will simply disappear and no longer be a threat to the State.

The Politicos, White collar criminals, corrupt Governmental officials and others of means and proper connections will be dealt with in a more genteel fashion. Perhaps their lawyers will receive a phone call from the State informing them that arrangements need to be made for suitable restitution or they will be subject to a lawsuit or face a minor jail term in one of the less thorough “reeducation facilities” maintained by the State to deal with subversive liberal types.

there.. I fixed it for you. obama and the democrat congress will bring this closer and closer to being true. His so called tax cuts is the start of it. His tax cuts aren't tax cuts. Most of the people who this is targeted at don't pay taxes already. To be accurate, it should be called a welfare check. That seals there power to keep getting re elected. They will have half the population on the government dole. Taxing amunition, stricter gun laws, more regulations, and less moral standards all will make what your typed a reality.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
Ok I'm going to post this up to make a point, take a look at this video...
http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ceshooting.flv

Tell me if you think it's a good shoot or not. DO NOT POST WHY you think it is good or bad. After a while I'll post the reason why I say this. I'm only doing this to show how different people will react to seeing the same thing.

100% justified
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Back to the original video....Part of the problem is you are not where the officer was. You can not see what the officer saw, the kid may have been pulling a weapon out from his pocket of something. Granted, it does not look that way from the video but it is very possible. The camera does not always show what is really happening. Just before the shot was fired the one officer who was kneeling on the kids neck got up, was this because he saw something we could not or was he just getting away from the other officers gun? There is more to consider than just what we can see.
 
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