Israeli bombing protests
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Violent PETA members may throw blood on you or physically attack for a question like that....like the big 5,000,000lb invisible monster in the middle east everybody is either angry about, afraid to talk about or face in an honest and accurate way.
I was in a rush and my analogy was somewhat crude and incomplete but open minds can get the point. If it was us we would do the exact same thing.
After growing up in this country in the 50's and 60's I learned long ago there are usually many stories that make up 1 big story.
If it doesn't make sense, it's usually not the truth.
Arab Terrorism as an unprovoked act of senseless violence is one of the best sold myths I have ever seen....Sort of like all people of color being uncivilized animals with no soul....sold well also for centuries.
I was in a rush and my analogy was somewhat crude and incomplete but open minds can get the point. If it was us we would do the exact same thing.
After growing up in this country in the 50's and 60's I learned long ago there are usually many stories that make up 1 big story.
If it doesn't make sense, it's usually not the truth.
Arab Terrorism as an unprovoked act of senseless violence is one of the best sold myths I have ever seen....Sort of like all people of color being uncivilized animals with no soul....sold well also for centuries.
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The said the same about the Colonist during the American Revolutionary War.
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A different look.
Lets say America is a bunch of individual states with no central government. Size of military is governed by population of states. States wealth is governed by their individual resources. (Independent States of America)
Native American Indians funded by China swoop in and takes Mississippi. They have nukes and will use them to defend what they have done because they feel that the land was theirs, was wrongly taken and should belong to them again forever.
China has the dominant armed forces nobody wants to directly attack so most of the world just sits and watches. Many sympathize with the Indians because of history. The Indians give an open invitation to all Indians worldwide to come and live in this new territory.
They take all the land from the Mississippians except for (Gulfport) a city facing the ocean. They have total control of the resources, utilities and food which they use to control the people living there. Gulfport is the only city left in Mississippi under original control of the people living there before the Indians take over. They elect a rebellious government to fight the Indians.
1. Do you think the Mississippians would/should sit and take it?
2. Do you think the surrounding states would be ok with the takeover?
3. Do you think people negatively affected would wish this new territory to exist?
4. How do you think China would be viewed, since if not for them the Indians could not pull the land grab off.
5. Do you think the rebellious government elected in Gulfport would just talk?
Im not anti jew or pro arab. I just see the world and right and wrong as it is.
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A different look.
Lets say America is a bunch of individual states with no central government. Size of military is governed by population of states. States wealth is governed by their individual resources. (Independent States of America)
Native American Indians funded by China swoop in and takes Mississippi. They have nukes and will use them to defend what they have done because they feel that the land was theirs, was wrongly taken and should belong to them again forever.
China has the dominant armed forces nobody wants to directly attack so most of the world just sits and watches. Many sympathize with the Indians because of history. The Indians give an open invitation to all Indians worldwide to come and live in this new territory.
They take all the land from the Mississippians except for (Gulfport) a city facing the ocean. They have total control of the resources, utilities and food which they use to control the people living there. Gulfport is the only city left in Mississippi under original control of the people living there before the Indians take over. They elect a rebellious government to fight the Indians.
1. Do you think the Mississippians would/should sit and take it?
2. Do you think the surrounding states would be ok with the takeover?
3. Do you think people negatively affected would wish this new territory to exist?
4. How do you think China would be viewed, since if not for them the Indians could not pull the land grab off.
5. Do you think the rebellious government elected in Gulfport would just talk?
Im not anti jew or pro arab. I just see the world and right and wrong as it is.
You conveniently forget the mildly important part where all the people and nations/states (whatever you want to call them) were constantly scheming to wipe the "Native Americans" off the face of the planet. Or maybe the part where THEY DID attack them and it was in that WAR FOR SURVIVAL that they took the land whilst in the process of fighting for their very literal survival.
MIGHTY convenient you left those parts out, eh? Not surprised though, can't teach an old dog new tricks and you also present BS arguments.
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What a perfect example! Well, that is, if you are trying to make a point that Israel is in the wrong.
You conveniently forget the mildly important part where all the people and nations/states (whatever you want to call them) were constantly scheming to wipe the "Native Americans" off the face of the planet. Or maybe the part where THEY DID attack them and it was in that WAR FOR SURVIVAL that they took the land whilst in the process of fighting for their very literal survival.
MIGHTY convenient you left those parts out, eh? Not surprised though, can't teach an old dog new tricks and you also present BS arguments.
You conveniently forget the mildly important part where all the people and nations/states (whatever you want to call them) were constantly scheming to wipe the "Native Americans" off the face of the planet. Or maybe the part where THEY DID attack them and it was in that WAR FOR SURVIVAL that they took the land whilst in the process of fighting for their very literal survival.
MIGHTY convenient you left those parts out, eh? Not surprised though, can't teach an old dog new tricks and you also present BS arguments.
I don't get it when open minds, don't quite open.
I think he posed a decent analogy of the problem, it was scetchy, but there is a point in there. IMO
In your opinion , what points were left out? i would like to understand your point of view.
The Jewish people deserve a homeland as much as anyone else. I consider my few, inherited acres my homeland, but also realize someone was here before me. The genocide was a terrible thing, I didn't do it, but I am here. It is my home.
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Yea you conveniently left out the part that Mississippians were constantly attacking the Chineese in an effort to kill them. You also forgot that Missisippians have vowed to die trying to kill the Chineese and that Mississippians have sent suicide bombers, rocket attacks, and other acts of brutal hatred into China for thousands of years. But those are minor details.
That certainly be interesting...the Chineese coming down here to Mississippi to fight a bunch of us crazy rednecks. Bring 'em on, I live in Starkville!
That certainly be interesting...the Chineese coming down here to Mississippi to fight a bunch of us crazy rednecks. Bring 'em on, I live in Starkville!
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What a perfect example! Well, that is, if you are trying to make a point that Israel is in the wrong.
You conveniently forget the mildly important part where all the people and nations/states (whatever you want to call them) were constantly scheming to wipe the "Native Americans" off the face of the planet. Or maybe the part where THEY DID attack them and it was in that WAR FOR SURVIVAL that they took the land whilst in the process of fighting for their very literal survival.
MIGHTY convenient you left those parts out, eh? Not surprised though, can't teach an old dog new tricks and you also present BS arguments.
You conveniently forget the mildly important part where all the people and nations/states (whatever you want to call them) were constantly scheming to wipe the "Native Americans" off the face of the planet. Or maybe the part where THEY DID attack them and it was in that WAR FOR SURVIVAL that they took the land whilst in the process of fighting for their very literal survival.
MIGHTY convenient you left those parts out, eh? Not surprised though, can't teach an old dog new tricks and you also present BS arguments.
If anyone (Native Americans) came to this country and forcibly took a block of land (previously owned by others) all the people in this country would wish them to leave, by force if necessary. If they took the land and killed our citizens in the process, EVERYONE would wish them dead and an end to their forced territory on our land.
If anybody came and took your land passed down thru your family or bought with your hard earned money you would do anything to make them leave. If they killed your friends and family...you would wish to kill them.
If a third party (China) helped, you would wish them death also.
Yea you conveniently left out the part that Mississippians were constantly attacking the Chineese in an effort to kill them. You also forgot that Missisippians have vowed to die trying to kill the Chineese and that Mississippians have sent suicide bombers, rocket attacks, and other acts of brutal hatred into China for thousands of years. But those are minor details.
That certainly be interesting...the Chineese coming down here to Mississippi to fight a bunch of us crazy rednecks. Bring 'em on, I live in Starkville!
That certainly be interesting...the Chineese coming down here to Mississippi to fight a bunch of us crazy rednecks. Bring 'em on, I live in Starkville!
We would attack the Indians here because they are close but eventually we would also find a way to hurt China the Godfather of the Indian takeover.
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I still like this quote better though:
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Honesty Lumadar, I have no point to make on either side but your comprehension of my analogy seemed to miss certain points.
If anyone (Native Americans) came to this country and forcibly took a block of land (previously owned by others) all the people in this country would wish them to leave, by force if necessary. If they took the land and killed our citizens in the process, EVERYONE would wish them dead and an end to their forced territory on our land.
If anybody came and took your land passed down thru your family or bought with your hard earned money you would do anything to make them leave. If they killed your friends and family...you would wish to kill them.
If a third party (China) helped, you would wish them death also.
If China helped Native Americans take land by giving them advanced weapons and Nukes we would fight with any means necessary to push them out no matter how long it took or how many lives it cost.
We would attack the Indians here because they are close but eventually we would also find a way to hurt China the Godfather of the Indian takeover.
If anyone (Native Americans) came to this country and forcibly took a block of land (previously owned by others) all the people in this country would wish them to leave, by force if necessary. If they took the land and killed our citizens in the process, EVERYONE would wish them dead and an end to their forced territory on our land.
If anybody came and took your land passed down thru your family or bought with your hard earned money you would do anything to make them leave. If they killed your friends and family...you would wish to kill them.
If a third party (China) helped, you would wish them death also.
If China helped Native Americans take land by giving them advanced weapons and Nukes we would fight with any means necessary to push them out no matter how long it took or how many lives it cost.
We would attack the Indians here because they are close but eventually we would also find a way to hurt China the Godfather of the Indian takeover.
Or every other civilization in history for that matter?
For some reason you don't see native Americans strapping C4 to their chests and running into American markets to kill people. Odd?
The massive problem with your "analogy" is that you made it 100% slanted to make the Jews/Israelis look like they are the only offenders. You left out the part about how their people have been raped by man kind for a long time, and specifically over the last 50~ years as their neighbors are constantly threatening to wipe them from the face of the planet. That is a HUGE point to conveniently over look.
The Israelis have no where else where they can all go and be accepted...the Muslims do. Kind of a striking contrast there.
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So, you mean kind of like how Americans came to NA and killed and pushed away the native Americans and Mexicans?
Or every other civilization in history for that matter?
For some reason you don't see native Americans strapping C4 to their chests and running into American markets to kill people. Odd?
The massive problem with your "analogy" is that you made it 100% slanted to make the Jews/Israelis look like they are the only offenders.
Or every other civilization in history for that matter?
For some reason you don't see native Americans strapping C4 to their chests and running into American markets to kill people. Odd?
The massive problem with your "analogy" is that you made it 100% slanted to make the Jews/Israelis look like they are the only offenders.
Next you will say the settlers were victims and the Native Americans had to be wiped out and I just want to make them look bad also?
Maybe it is you slant things in your own choice of direction rather than see and find the truth regardless of who it favors.
As I said before im not anti jewish or pro arab. My country supports one side with my tax dollars regardless of my thoughts.
