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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by solomonHk
Dude there is no point. If he couldnt read my post and learn that there are 2 sides to this, hes dumber than he looks.

If you use the logic that most who responds to this thread use, then wouldnt the UK be justified in bombing Israel?
Just curious.
Your post was actual and factual. The best detractors could come up with is name calling such as jew hater or palestinian sympathizer....
Some people have problems with abstracts of things and places they cant relate to. I tried to dumb it down as far as I could.

Ignorance is bliss.
Willful ignorance is blissful stupidity.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by referee54
And now, a legend in his own mind, Lumadar---who is undefeated in every debate (at least in his own mind)...and, when it gets tough, he plays the "completely incapable of actually holding a valid argument" quite well...

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His post did go right over my head. But somebody else is trying to stick my head in a fence right now.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
Your post was actual and factual. The best detractors could come up with is name calling such as jew hater or palestinian sympathizer....
Some people have problems with abstracts of things and places they cant relate to. I tried to dumb it down as far as I could.

Ignorance is bliss.
Willful ignorance is blissful stupidity.
Wow.. I didn't figure you for such a touchy freely liberal. You want to know each sides position and sympathize with both.. so you could understand.. Listen.. there is right and wrong. If you can't pick sides, that is really sad. There is such a thing as right and wrong. Period. Right and wrong. Can you possibly understand this? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PICKING SIDES. It is OK to have an opinion. Mushy get alongness is NOT OK. Every one has belly buttons. Everyone has opinions. Take a stand. Be a man. It is OK.. more will respect you if you stand up for something. There is nothing worse than a touchy feeling womanly "I want to get along with everyone" type person. Sorry to break it to you.. there are moral absolutes. And that is a good thing.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
Wow.. I didn't figure you for such a touchy freely liberal. You want to know each sides position and sympathize with both.. so you could understand.. Listen.. there is right and wrong. If you can't pick sides, that is really sad. There is such a thing as right and wrong. Period. Right and wrong. Can you possibly understand this? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PICKING SIDES. It is OK to have an opinion. Mushy get alongness is NOT OK. Every one has belly buttons. Everyone has opinions. Take a stand. Be a man. It is OK.. more will respect you if you stand up for something. There is nothing worse than a touchy feeling womanly "I want to get along with everyone" type person. Sorry to break it to you.. there are moral absolutes. And that is a good thing.
What would Jesus say and do in this situation Chris?
You know dam well.

Now, lets look at this rationally. This is not our fight. God didn't ask us to fight for him there. The only thing in that part of the world that has an effect on any of us here in the United States is oil we need and payback we will get for meddling in others fights. We got enough problems of our own to solve and enough blood on our hands already.

Fight a good fight. God doesn't need help...we do.

What will Jesus say when he comes back? I bet he will be pissed.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
What would Jesus say and do in this situation Chris?
You know dam well.

Now, lets look at this rationally. This is not our fight. God didn't ask us to fight for him there. The only thing in that part of the world that has an effect on any of us here in the United States is oil we need and payback we will get for meddling in others fights. We got enough problems of our own to solve and enough blood on our hands already.

Fight a good fight. God doesn't need help...we do.

What will Jesus say when he comes back? I bet he will be pissed.
WWJD? You mormon? Jesus wants us to fight for him. Not our fight? The Bible specificly says that Israel is God's land. God will set up his kingdom in Israel when he comes back. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. It is our fight. Oil has nothing to do with it in Israel. They don't have any oil. The muslims are wrong sending rockets into Israel. It is unprovoked. Do you look at a bank robber and analize why he does this? Do you sympathise with the bank robber? Blood on our hand is noble to this point. We have done what is right for the most part.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Yes, "God’s chosen people”... The ultimate Racists who believe they are better than everyone else on the earth. They who believe all others are subhuman animals that deserve to be lied to, tricked, cheated and are no better than cattle. They have subverted this country’s government and our foreign policy. They advocate multiculturalism for YOU while they spend billions proselytizing amongst themselves against dilution of their race. You defend those who work to see YOUR race is completely erased.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Yes, "God’s chosen people”... The ultimate Racists who believe they are better than everyone else on the earth. They who believe all others are subhuman animals that deserve to be lied to, tricked, cheated and are no better than cattle. They have subverted this country’s government and our foreign policy. They advocate multiculturalism for YOU while they spend billions proselytizing amongst themselves against dilution of their race. You defend those who work to see YOUR race is completely erased.
That is what bothers me most, is the racism. I try to understand it, but can't let it go. Your view is more extreme than truth, but is still true.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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There is racism on both sides of that confrontation. Pick your poison.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
There is racism on both sides of that confrontation. Pick your poison.

To realize what started it is as rediculous as the Hatfields and McCoys though.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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To realize what started it is as rediculous as the Hatfields and McCoys though.
Always is, but one day there will be peace.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Always is, but one day there will be peace.
That can only happen when their 5000 year old fued ends. Because of a man that had wifes from two different civilizations. One he loved, the other he owned. Poison and deceit is the venom that started it all.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by referee54
And now, a legend in his own mind, Lumadar---who is undefeated in every debate (at least in his own mind)...and, when it gets tough, he plays the "completely incapable of actually holding a valid argument" quite well...

When in a corner, remember, always say that the other argument is absurd or off topic!

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Ahh, another worthless post from the old guy, big surprise! Making claims with nothing to back it up...you and your DAWG should hang out some time, you two would make a great couple
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Franko
Yes, "God’s chosen people”... The ultimate Racists who believe they are better than everyone else on the earth. They who believe all others are subhuman animals that deserve to be lied to, tricked, cheated and are no better than cattle. They have subverted this country’s government and our foreign policy. They advocate multiculturalism for YOU while they spend billions proselytizing amongst themselves against dilution of their race. You defend those who work to see YOUR race is completely erased.
Good point....are friends of Islam definitely couldn't fall into that category either, though, right? Oh snap!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
WWJD? You mormon? Jesus wants us to fight for him.
No im not mormon but I find it strange and disturbing when anyone kills innocents and justify it as doing Gods work.

I don't believe Jesus or God need us to fight for them. Maybe I could believe you if you told me that Jesus or God told you first person but from your responses and anger I know they did not. Muslims kill innocents in Gods name and there will be a spiritual price they will pay....Christians will fare no better for the same crime. You will bet your spirit on what you think you know?

Most of the strongest people I know are weak morally.
Some of the morally strongest people I know or have read about seek understanding not violence.

Jesus was one of the morally strongest people I have ever read about.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
No im not mormon but I find it strange and disturbing when anyone kills innocents and justify it as doing Gods work.

I don't believe Jesus or God need us to fight for them. Maybe I could believe you if you told me that Jesus or God told you first person but from your responses and anger I know they did not. Muslims kill innocents in Gods name and there will be a spiritual price they will pay....Christians will fare no better for the same crime. You will bet your spirit on what you think you know?

Most of the strongest people I know are weak morally.
Some of the morally strongest people I know or have read about seek understanding not violence.

Jesus was one of the morally strongest people I have ever read about.
I read somewhere on the web. I don't have the url to back it up.
But Jesus was picked on when he was a child, and would not even fight for himself.
Others would defend him, but he would discourage that also. You are right, the message from Jesus, "don't fight". Words were the only weapon he ever used.
As far as him being pissed when he returns, no way, that is not what he taught either
 
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