Great opinion.. but who would decide what lifes cost? I don't agree with your assesment. They were getting aid from us either way.

 

I didn't make the deal, I just tried to explain it to you

 

Tumba is somewhat of a Muslim sympathizer...Nice guy, but a Muslim ally nonetheless...

 

€i believe we are to never turn our back on our brothers. There are very few of us that do not have Jewish ancesters somewhere up the ladder.
What confuses most people, is that it is not Muslims that are doing the horific things. It is not even what the Noble Quran teaches, I asked you before to do some research. I see you haven't done that. I sympathise with inocents that are caught in the middle with People like ourselves on one side, and extremist on the other that are taught they are glorifying themselves for the afterlife. {Pavlov's dogs come to mind}{the devine wind comes to mind}. Just like the arabic appearing picture posted in this thread. It appears to be authentic, and it drives the point home. But it is fake. The letters face the right direction, but are written backward. Aramic writing is from right to left. The wrting on that picture is written left to right, that make the caption giberish.

 

Maybe thats the point...

And I have studied the Quran, and find it lacking in Nobility...

 

That is a good point in itself.
As I stated I seek truth. I do that no matter how ugly it is. There are many truths that I don't want to post. But I do know them for myself.
As I have told you before Shines, I respect you, and I have unshakable faith in my savior Jesus Christ and our Father.

 

So, you have accepted what Christ did for you? And invited Him into your heart?

If so, then I commend you, and am even more confused by you

 

I didn't realize you didn't understand that, but it is he that was sent, that has sent me on my adventure. It may not be for you to understand, maybe someday you will. But it is my job to find the rest of what has been left out. Even if it is only for my benefit. I certainly do not plan to change anything, just improve myself. There are to many incorrect interpretations of the actual words of Jesus.

Then aqain maybe I was sent to solidify you're Faith, because from your own antaganism, your Faith is not complete

 

A simple yes or no would have sufficed...I still am no where near understanding your answer.

 

I'm going to bed now. Just sleep on it. You are my brother in Christ.

 

Go Israel...Push your enemy into the sea...Any body that lobs rockets into your front yard should not survive..
That is my .02 cents.

 

So are you asking for both sides to be wiped out? Last I recall both do a fair share of lobbing rockets...

 

Hamas attacks...Israel responds. Israel does not attack first. I still don't get why you dislike the Jew

 

Shines, I dont dislike the Jew! I simply find both parties guilty.

The issues over there are not so cut and dry. Hammas killing innocent Jews. Israel killing innocent palestinians. Israel using missles to take out a handful of Hammas members occupying a multi family residence is like using a howitzer to shoot a squirrel. The bad part is, the innocent that dies in those types of "hatchet" retaliations add fuel to the Hammas fire. Relatives want justice so support Hammas or join in.

Im not attempting to say that PEACE is the answer. We all know it will never exist. However, for me, it would be morally wrong to excuse one side because of some religious ancestory.

Lets look at some things:


A quote from Jim Hanson, associate executive director of the Canadian Institute for Strategic Studies and a retired brigadier general, regarding the 1946 Israeli attack on the King David Hotel which ended in 91 lives lost:
Yitzhak Shamir(once Israel Prime Minister) was a member of two militant Jewish underground organizations which ... were active in counter-terrorist acts against Arabs as well as sabotage against the British. — The Department for Jewish Zionist Education
Ariel Sharon initiated the Sabra-Shatila massacre in which between 1000 and 3000 people (mostly Palestinians) were murdered.

October 14, 1953 - Sharon led attack on Palestinian villages. The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians.

I cannot emphasize enough, posting these isnt saying its all Israel's fault. I am merely trying to illustrate how both sides carry the burden of guilt and perpetuation of violence.

 

The said the same about the Colonist during the American Revolutionary War.
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A different look.

Lets say America is a bunch of individual states with no central government. Size of military is governed by population of states. States wealth is governed by their individual resources. (Independent States of America)

Native American Indians funded by China swoop in and takes Mississippi. They have nukes and will use them to defend what they have done because they feel that the land was theirs, was wrongly taken and should belong to them again forever.
China has the dominant armed forces nobody wants to directly attack so most of the world just sits and watches. Many sympathize with the Indians because of history. The Indians give an open invitation to all Indians worldwide to come and live in this new territory.
They take all the land from the Mississippians except for (Gulfport) a city facing the ocean. They have total control of the resources, utilities and food which they use to control the people living there. Gulfport is the only city left in Mississippi under original control of the people living there before the Indians take over. They elect a rebellious government to fight the Indians.


1. Do you think the Mississippians would/should sit and take it?
2. Do you think the surrounding states would be ok with the takeover?
3. Do you think people negatively affected would wish this new territory to exist?
4. How do you think China would be viewed, since if not for them the Indians could not pull the land grab off.
5. Do you think the rebellious government elected in Gulfport would just talk?

Im not anti jew or pro arab. I just see the world and right and wrong as it is.