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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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This is to be the philisophical war of the ancient pholosopher/prophets.
No one will get otu of this unscathed. All three of my boys are destined for
the soon to come draft.
People are right when they say the world would be better off with out
religion.
But it is religion that formed civilization itself. That point can be argued, but
can not be proven wrong
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
This is to be the philisophical war of the ancient pholosopher/prophets.
No one will get otu of this unscathed. All three of my boys are destined for
the soon to come draft.
People are right when they say the world would be better off with out
religion.
But it is religion that formed civilization itself. That point can be argued, but
can not be proven wrong
there is a serious difference. If the palistinians would quit lobbing rockets into Israel, there would be no war. Israel is content with living in peace. there are even arab members of Israels Parliament. Hamas has the sole goal of destroying Israel. Without that goal, they are nothing. They need to be put down hard. BTW.. Israel is a secular country. Sure Jews live there.. but there government is secular. The religious part of the equation is strictly on the palistinian shoulders.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
there is a serious difference. If the palistinians would quit lobbing rockets into Israel, there would be no war. Israel is content with living in peace. there are even arab members of Israels Parliament. Hamas has the sole goal of destroying Israel. Without that goal, they are nothing. They need to be put down hard. BTW.. Israel is a secular country. Sure Jews live there.. but there government is secular. The religious part of the equation is strictly on the palistinian shoulders.

It is a 5000 year old family fued.....
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
It is a 5000 year old family fewed.....
Yup.. and I am rooting for the Israelis.. they have God on there side.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Yup.. and I am rooting for the Israelis.. they have God on there side.

I'm not a muslem sympathyser or anything like it. But it is a story of three sides.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chris1450
there is a serious difference. If the palistinians would quit lobbing rockets into Israel, there would be no war. Israel is content with living in peace.
You really need to learn your facts.
I think Israel has a right to defend itself by any means necessary but do you even know why the Palestinians elected Hamas to politically represent them and allow them to act on their behalf?

Very little happens in a vacuum.
There is always cause and effect.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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I think Israel has a right to defend itself by any means necessary but do you even know why the Palestinians elected Hamas to politically represent them and allow them to act on their behalf?
Because there as smart as you are
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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I am about 95% against selling the F-22 to anybody. I know that it would keep your producitons lines open a lot longer, but I really like being the only kid on the block with such high-power weaponry. I know Isreal are our allies, but we can't truely know how good their pilot training is. I'm sure its great, but the only person that I trust flying that kind of technology over people that truely hate us is American flyers. What happens if some Isreali gets his butt shot out of the sky, giving away are secrets and tech.?

I am all for giving the the F-16s and F-15s that the Raptor is replacing, those are still FAR superior to anything that they the middle east can throw at them, and at least an even match to everything Russia has.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
You really need to learn your facts.
I think Israel has a right to defend itself by any means necessary but do you even know why the Palestinians elected Hamas to politically represent them and allow them to act on their behalf?

Very little happens in a vacuum.
There is always cause and effect.
Oh please.. you give the guys in grass huts way to much credit. They still wipe there butt with there hands right? I don't give a flying rats *** why they elected hamas. They are wrong. Period. Civilized people don't sit there and lob rockets into cities. Especially after Israel gave back the gaza strip to the barbarians. Israel took gaza in 1967 because of arab aggression. They gave back the land and look at the appreciation. Negotiations don't work with these prehistoric animals. The sole purpose of palestine is to eradicate Jews. Even other arab nations behind closed doors want hamas gone. They don't say it publicly.. but it is true. Israel has had great restraint in not going to all out war. How many years have they been bombed? And now that the great O will be in office, Israel knows they won't have such a strong friend in the west. I don't blame them a bit for protecting them selfs. I just hope they finish the job.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FineFord06
Because there as smart as you are
Very informative post, I'll pass it on.
Do you have another screen name on this forum?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
I am about 95% against selling the F-22 to anybody. I know that it would keep your producitons lines open a lot longer, but I really like being the only kid on the block with such high-power weaponry. I know Isreal are our allies, but we can't truely know how good their pilot training is. I'm sure its great, but the only person that I trust flying that kind of technology over people that truely hate us is American flyers. What happens if some Isreali gets his butt shot out of the sky, giving away are secrets and tech.?

I am all for giving the the F-16s and F-15s that the Raptor is replacing, those are still FAR superior to anything that they the middle east can throw at them, and at least an even match to everything Russia has.
Very true, but a pilot don't have much knowledge to give. They are the jockies
riding the horse someone else trained.
Also the airplane is worthless without the weapons we supply them.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
Very informative post, I'll pass it on.
Do you have another screen name on this forum?
No. Do I need one?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
Your premise of the above, is that God was going to take Israel away from the Jews. Again, you fail to look at the scripture around this statement.




Clearly, Christ is speaking of himself as the savior, and not of the taking land.


What is scary, is how you are able to distort and twist. An evil gift indeed.

The rest of the scripture that you quoted was taken out of context and twisted in an attempt to validate Aryan beliefs. I need not point it out, those close to the Stormfront movement already know what they are attempting to bastardize.

Funny how everything you say you fail to apply to yourself. That is your interpretation of your book.

And as for your incessent, juvenile references to me being some monger of the Aryan agenda... be sort of strange considering I am not aryan, nor someone who holds socialistic, much less national socialistic beliefs. And judging by the first few pages I just found when I googled: "Israel Palestine Neo *****" I would imagine if I were an adopter of that ethos, I would be anti arab arguing that israel has exclusive rights to that area... Just more ignorance on your part. So, what would you like to call me now? A hammas or Al Queda operative?

My suggestion to you, before you call anyone else anything remotely offensive, find a way to say it to their face.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by solomonHk
Funny how everything you say you fail to apply to yourself. That is your interpretation of your book.

And as for your incessent, juvenile references to me being some monger of the Aryan agenda... be sort of strange considering I am not aryan, nor someone who holds socialistic, much less national socialistic beliefs. And judging by the first few pages I just found when I googled: "Israel Palestine Neo *****" I would imagine if I were an adopter of that ethos, I would be anti arab arguing that israel has exclusive rights to that area... Just more ignorance on your part. So, what would you like to call me now? A hammas or Al Queda operative?

My suggestion to you, before you call anyone else anything remotely offensive, find a way to say it to their face.
Face off
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Dogg™
You really need to learn your facts.
I think Israel has a right to defend itself by any means necessary but do you even know why the Palestinians elected Hamas to politically represent them and allow them to act on their behalf?

Very little happens in a vacuum.
There is always cause and effect.

I am not 100% sure, but I imagine its because before all this there were Jewish terrorists that practically scared farmers in the gaza away, then came in and settled the land once the area was given status in the 40's.

And I am just like you. "Both sides are to blame." Israel has a right to defend itself, but that land belongs, historically, religiously, to all those people over there regardless of their religion or ethnicity.
 
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