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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Oh you crazy kids and your forum...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
You're absolutely right, you aren't required to explain yourselves. Dictators don't have to explain themselves either. Nobody wants to be part of a dictatorship though.

I enjoy being a part of this site, and have no desire to be kicked out. On the flip side, I want everyone to be able to freely express their thoughts/opinions. When people are banned, suspended, threads are deleted, etc. with no explanation, how are we supposed to learn what is and is not acceptable? At least lock threads so we can see where the line is, and what you consider crossing it.

There just seems to be a lot of gray areas.

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Threads are deleted because it's better they not be seen by anyone that has not already seen it. You don't leave it out there as an education example. Generally, those are breaking one of the specific rules and you know what those are already. If you can't read a thread and see that it is lock down material or deletion material, you probably should not be posting anyway. I'm just trying to use some common sense here, not being smartalec.

This is a truck site first, with paying sponsers. It is a social place secondly. The rules in place tell us the type of social place it is to be. Those rules could never be all inclusive of every thing that someone could do wrong. It is up to the moderators to enforce the written rules and to use their judgment to keep the atmosphere that the owners want. They have stated a family atmosphere with a PG-13 rating. If that is not an atmosphere you want, then there are other places to hangout, don't try to force this place to fit you.

One other thing. Moderators are people and we are different. Some have more patience than others when their chain is being jerked. That is neither wrong nor a bad thing, it's just the way it is. It may look as if we are on a power trip at times, but to my knowledge, not one deletion or ban has taken place that we did not all agree was necessary. I hope some of this helps, and I am not wasting my time.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OgRedd
People know the difference between right and wrong. It's just that simple. - Og
You know Og, I used to believe that. After moderating this short time, I'm not so sure anymore.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
You know Og, I used to believe that. After moderating this short time, I'm not so sure anymore.
Understood. Sad. - Og
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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I'm a member at numerous other forums ( some Ford related ) and I will tell you that the mods here are alot more flexible in what is left and what goes on around here.

If everyone read the FORUM RULES and half-assed understood what was there, these "members" who get banned or suspended wouldn't be in such a state of shock when it happens to them. ( and seeing the "why all the bannings/suspensions" threads of late, maybe the banned/suspended members aren't the only ones in shock )

If you have been a member here for years why are you all of a sudden worried about ANY gray areas? You've obivously know something if you have managed to stay around for as long as you have.

To me it just sounds like some nosey members wanting to know why certain members got banned or suspended.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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F150online.com GD forum is my home page. I visit here almost every day, even when I'm on vacation. My interest in pick up forums has little brand loyalty. I happen to like Fords but I'm logged into many various truck forums and believe me, F150online GD forum is by far the most lively, informed, mature and entertaining of all that I visit. This GD forum is my 'window' on the world, be it political, religious or just plain BS. Some of the GD forums on other truck sites are a real snore. I like it here and plan to stay awhile.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
One other thing. Moderators are people and we are different. Some have more patience than others when their chain is being jerked. That is neither wrong nor a bad thing, it's just the way it is. It may look as if we are on a power trip at times, but to my knowledge, not one deletion or ban has taken place that we did not all agree was necessary. I hope some of this helps, and I am not wasting my time.
Definitely not wasting your time. Without your efforts (along with the other mods) this site would no doubt fall into anarchy within a week.

From what I've gathered, it seems that some people think that the mods are not keeping an impartial view on things, and that's whats causing threads like this.

Originally Posted by bluejay432000
Originally Posted by Originally Posted by OgRedd
People know the difference between right and wrong. It's just that simple.
You know Og, I used to believe that. After moderating this short time, I'm not so sure anymore.
Are you guys saying there are no gray areas? Sure, some things are clearly right or wrong, but just like Jim said,
It is up to the moderators to enforce the written rules and to use their judgment to keep the atmosphere that the owners want.
Og, do you really see everything in Black & White?

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Sorry for the derailment. That's not a bannable offense is it?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Seriously, some of you guys need to go to K-mart and get some un-bunchable panties. I've been on SEVERAL forums and this is by far one of the best. No matter what the subject matter. I was on Pirate4x4 for a while and that place is like a biker bar, I'm on Fordification and that place is more like a retirement home. This place is like a Show and Shine and Goldilocks says it's just right. JMHO
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Jim, I like you, I dont care what Brad says about you.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Jim, I like you, I dont care what Brad says about you.
I don't care what he says either, and thanks.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
Og, do you really see everything in Black & White?
Nope. I just refuse to make things more complex than they really are. I have better things to do with that time. I'm sure you know when you do things that may offend. But if you go ahead and do that "thing", don't be surprised when the consequence bites you in the nuts. - Og
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by OgRedd
Nope. I just refuse to make things more complex than they really are. I have better things to do with that time. I'm sure you know when you do things that may offend. But if you go ahead and do that "thing", don't be surprised when the consequence bites you in the nuts. - Og
I've been here for over 2 years and 2,000 posts (including GD) and never been suspended, I think I'm OK.

Some of the more lively and interesting discussions I've seen have been between people who disagree on something. Let's just say, gay marriage. Just the concept of that may offend people, so are we not to discuss it? Where is the line? That's the gray area I'm referring to.

This forum does have it's share of very intelligent people who can hold a conversation with others from opposing view points, without getting nasty. Of course there are other members here who can't. So are we to go with the idea that one bad apple spoils the bunch, and not discuss controversial issues at all, since those with the mentality of a 10 year old could say something stupid and get the thread, locked, deleted, what have you?

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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
If you have been a member here for years why are you all of a sudden worried about ANY gray areas?
Smiggs, I agree. If you're concerned about "gray areas", you need to ask yourself are you really here for the social and technical benefit or here to engage in negativity. Positivity doesn't require "wiggle room". - Og
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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You are ok, NCSU.

Originally Posted by NCSU_05_FX4
This forum does have it's share of very intelligent people who can hold a conversation with others from opposing view points, without getting nasty. Of course there are other members here who can't.
These are the members I am referring to.

There can be discussion about controversial issues without added controversy. I see it here all the time. I don't fully agree with Wittom, but I respect him. We can disagree often, but it doesn't require me to call him a racist or a bigot to get my point across to him. I'm certain he feels the same about me. I think. :o - Og
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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So are we to go with the idea that one bad apple spoils the bunch, and not discuss controversial issues at all, since those with the mentality of a 10 year old could say something stupid and get the thread, locked, deleted, what have you?
Unfortunatley that IS the case. And that's where the mods can step in and do something with these "bad apples".

And then we get the "why all the....." threads.

So I think instead of looking at the mods and wondering why? Shouldn't we be looking at these "bad apples" who spoil a great thread topic?
 
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