Absolutely. You act as though you are trying to console me in saying that no one is forcing me to worship your God. No kidding. You couldn't force me to if you wanted. No one's forcing you to drown when you drink water, either, but such a statement is rather silly, so why say it? But since you seem to feel that's an important point, then it should be equally important that no one is prohibiting you from worshiping your God, either. Actually, I think that statement really is the more important of the two because of the recent attempt by many to fool the people into thinking there is some conspiracy afoot to outlaw religion.

It's really all quite simple; religion is a personal and private thing between each man and his God, and it should be kept that way. If there are many people who share a similar belief, they can organize into groups, and have places for them to meet where they can share in their beliefs. You could call these places "churches." And if some of these people felt particularly strong about their beliefs, so much so that they wanted to keep their children from making decisions on their own, they could send them to private schools, where they would only be taught the things that that family felt were important. If their beliefs forced them to adhere to certain rules and bylaws, such as what and when they could eat certain foods, or how many times a day they must pray, or whether or not they could have an abortion, that would be, like every other part of their religion, a personal belief between themselves and their God. No one could tell them they were wrong, and force them to adhere to a different set of beliefs that went against what they felt was right. It was their business, and nobody elses.


No, Chris, that is the faith of YOUR choice.

The other Gods are just as legitimate as yours is. You can believe that you are right and everyone else is wrong as much as you want to, but that doesn't change things. For you, it is right, but for some Muslims, the mention of God in our legal documents means Allah. For others it means other Gods. If our country was ever supposed to be a "Christian nation", it wouldn't say God, it would say Jesus Christ, since it is in fact Jesus Christ that defines Christianity from all the other religions. Like you said, no one is forcing you to worship the Gods of other religions, but you can't wish them away, either.

 

Brasher Doubloon, 1787
SI Neg. 2005-27300. Date: 9/1/2005...The Brasher Doubloon is one of the most enigmatic coins in American numismatic history. We know when it was minted, who minted it, and approximately how many pieces were minted. But why was the coin minted? What were the intentions of its creator, Ephraim Brasher? Did he seek to render a public service, providing a new gold coin based on an old model: the onza, or doubloon of Spanish America? .Or was Brasher, an assayer and goldsmith, after a contract to provide copper coinage-minting and distributing these gold pieces to influence state legislators? We don't know. What we do know is that only seven of these doubloons are recorded. And if Brasher were angling for a contract to strike copper, he was singularly unsuccessful..Why were states issuing coining contracts anyhow? State-sponsored coinage was a natural outgrowth of the extreme federalism of the United States' first constitution, the Articles of Confederation. Under its statutes, individual states were sovereign entities, enjoying the right to issue coinage and "bills of credit," or currency. .A number of states (and Vermont, which was a separate country at the time) did both. New York was indecisive. The adoption of the U.S. Constitution in 1789 put an end to state coinages, and to the aspirations of people like Ephraim Brasher. .Soon there would be a new, national coinage in copper, silver, and gold, and private issues would no longer be needed-or so it was assumed..Click here to view the reverse...Credit: Tom Mulvaney (Smithsonian Institution
http://www.flickr.com/photos/publicr...org/493900839/

 

The US government did not distribute the money, it was done on the State level

 

...hehehehehe.....

 

This story can't help the Evangelical cause:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/20/....ap/index.html

 

And once again you just don't get it. This article is about man failing God. Not about God failing men. Open your mind man.

 

The Father will always forgive his son.
That is what this thread is about!

 

My mind is open, in fact, your mind is so closed that you can't see it.
Tell me something, if God didn't fail man, where was He when those little kids were getting abused?




~ Long deafening Silence ~



Yeah, that's what I thought. Same place he is everytime some horrific event takes place.

NOWHERE!

 

Like reading one of your posts in this thread, huh.

 

Stealth buddy, you forgot your hat!

 

Will I go to hell if I'm an atheist? Does being an atheist make me a bad person? If I saved your life someday or someone you loved, and still didn't believe in your god, will I still go to hell?

Was T-Rex mentioned in the bible?

 

Sorry, but yes. The only way to heaven is through the son. Being an atheist does not make you a bad person. You can't get to heaven with good works. It is quite clear in the Bible. The fact that you admit there is a hell tells me your not such an atheist. There is mention of beasts in the old testement. Of course they did not name the beasts.

 

You will be serving the very purpose of your life by the discissions you make. I feel we have our purpose here, and the outcome will be based on the content of your soul.
In mans writing of the Bible, I do believe it has had it's very nature changed by the hand of man. Although the original transcripts were writen by men inspired by the search for God. In that context, does anyone belive there is no God period.
I for my personal knowledge would like to see some replies on this statement.

 

I am an atheist. Just because I acknowledge your beliefs, that doesn't mean I admit they are true. That's just the same as me saying I don't believe in your god. Like I said, just because I acknowledge your belief in a god, doesn't mean that I believe your god exists.. this could go on.. regardless I show enough respect to not push my nonexistant beliefs on others..

Aside from that, here's what I know..
Jesus was one man, more than likely fictional at that, and by no means the son of a god. The bible is nothing more than a crutch for the weak created by man and support for those who cant see things as they really are.

Long story short.. heaven or hell.. who cares? I know where I'll be when my time comes.. 6 feet under and thats it..

 

I've decided on a pewter urn resting nicely on my wife's nightstand.
That's the idea anyway, but I can see it being moved to the workbench in the basement, right next to where the battery for the cordless drill is charging.

I'll see ya in hell ya Godless sumbich!