Your still missing my question. Where did energy come from? There HAD to be a begining. Don't evade.

 

I believe that's one of the many reasons why the Large Hadron Collider was built. Give it a little time and hopefully we may very well know for a fact.

edit - Hadron NOT Hardon

 

They blew a transformer. Man isn't capable of knowing the question... AGAIN I ask... where and how did it all START! And what was before it? The question keeps getting deflected and ignored. And to those who say it was always there.. WRONG. There is a begining to everything. And it is YOUR faith saying it was always there. YOUR faith makes no sense. We all have faith in something. Where you place your faith is what counts. Mercedes.. you even said you believe there is a God. You have to have some deeper thoughts about my question.

 

You know an odd fact.
The smallest known energy partical or {aside from the postulated pieces of it}
is the photon. It is a combination of enegy{kenetic is my guess} Looks like a dark swirl in combination with a lighted swirl. But if you were to freeze this to absalute zero where there will be no movement within it{theory} that there will be no mass to it at all. Not an answer to your question, but cand lead to one as a person gains understanding of how matter is formed.

 

Why is "I Don't Know" not a suitable answer?

The truth is nobody knows, I don't think any of us have to be ashamed of that answer. I'm not.

Final Answer...

"I Don't Know"

Anyone who says otherwise is full of sheeet!

 

So, there's no such thing as eternity? What's wrong with saying that something has always been, and will always be?

Our current universe, according to Big Bang models, does have a finite age. That does not mean that the energy (to use the term very loosely) it's composed of has the same problem. For example, one possible explanation for the start of the Big Bang is analogous to a mass on a spring; our current universe might simply be the outward movement of an eternal oscillation.

To be completely honest I should point out that recent research suggests that the rate of universal expansion is accelerating, a problem for that particular theory - but there are plenty of other alternatives. The bottom line is that searching for first causes is like looking for the biggest number; you can always add one. If you want to waste your time and look for a 'beginning', go right ahead. Many lives have been spent pursuing far more useless endeavors.

Edited to add: If you want to get really freaky, you could also note that time slows down as gravity increases and space compresses; from a certain perspective, then, you could say that the "Big Bang" actually started infinitely long ago.

Eh... There's really no such thing as a 'photon', per se. 'Photon' refers to a quanta of electro-magnetic radiation; it's often convenient to think of photons as particles, but that's about it. As electromagnetic radiation can have arbitrarily small energy, photons can also have arbitrarily small energies. Also, you can never stop photons from moving at the speed of light; by using cool materials, you can slow down the effective speed of a wave front, but you can't "stop" light.

 

And that is exactly what I was waiting for as an answer. The point I am trying to make is that you have faith in that energy was just there. I have faith that God made it. It makes us NO different. It is the following outcome that makes us different. I have hope. You have dirt. Who is right? I am. And we will know when we die. I hope you see it my way before then.

 

And still you miss the point. You say eternity. That is a simplistic answer. energy had to be created sometime or somewhere. And when or where was it? Your response is an example of evasion.

 

Wow, is this thread still going on?

Chris, your questions are interesting. You keep asking "when" things started to happen or what happened "before".
In the current universe, time (or space time) only started at the instant the universe started to expand. Don't say that the Big Bang never happened because it can be observed.
Time did not exist before the Big Bang. That's a very difficult concept to visualize or grasp but it means that there was no "before".

 

What happens to light when it is absorbed?

 

No no no,

You are wrong, Chris is right, you will see when you die.

As your evil soul floats down to the fierry depths of hell, Chris will be watching from Heaven (as he's sitting on God's lap telling him what he wants for Christmas), squealing with delight as you get stuck with the poker, all the while saying
"I told ya so"


It's ok Adam, I'll be down there to keep ya company, you me, 5oh, as long as we have enough for a poker game, it's all good.

 

See you down there for the beers then

I liked your flowchart on Religion by the way. Here's my contribution.

 

Why do you always ask the easy questions Tumba?
I left a message for Stephen Hawking to come by and answer it, but he's got bowling league tonight.

That quantum physics is hard to get your head around, it is for me anyway, but I keep trying.

 

No, the "big bang" can not be observed. it is a theory. One of many.l And even if it did... "time did not exist before the big bang" Ok.. fine. What was before that, and what made the big bang? You can't get something from nothing. Something had to created everything.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the bible state that God always existed? If so, why doesn't the rule you quoted up top apply to God?