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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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it's a living, breathing document.
Do you really believe that? I mean believe like Barack believes it, that its a living breathing document that changes from generation to generation?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Do you really believe that?...that its a living breathing document that changes from generation to generation?
If it never changed, we wouldn't have abolished slavery or given women the right to vote or the most important one of all, especially now...
...limiting Presidents to two terms. (whew)
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
If it never changed, we wouldn't have abolished slavery or given women the right to vote or the most important one of all, especially now...
...limiting Presidents to two terms. (whew)
You listed three items specifically provided by amending the Constitution.

Abolished Slavery: 13th Amendment
Women's Sufferage: 19th Amendment
Two Terms Maximum: 22nd Amendment

If you want to try and pass a Constitutional Amendment to make it legal for the government to provide healthcare for all by soaking the rich, give it your best shot. It won't pass in my lifetime.

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Amending the Constitution would be the long road.

Much more expedient to appoint justices to the Supreme Court who will interpret the Constitution as needed.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
Amending the Constitution would be the long road.

Much more expedient to appoint justices to the Supreme Court who will interpret the Constitution as needed.
see I told you they already have their hands wrapped around that life support power cord getting ready to yank
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Seriously, how come anytime someone is saying how crappy the Canadian health care system is, you never actually hear it from a Canadian?

Take it from me, a guy diagnosed with an incurable, terminal disease, I've been at the mercy of our 'crappy' health care system, and it's not let me down yet.
2 Sides to every story, we have a family friend who lived in Canada and travels to Houston for medical care. He spends the entire year, but the 4 summer months, here in Houston getting treated. He says the Canadian healthcare system is a huge joke, once you know what proper treatment & doctors are like you would never trust your life to those Hospitals in Canada. His condition was getting worse, after coming here to Houston for the past 3 years he has made huge progress.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
Amending the Constitution would be the long road.

Much more expedient to appoint justices to the Supreme Court who will interpret the Constitution as needed.
Amending the Constitution would be the proper method. Using SC justices to rewrite the Constitution is the left-wing method of using the unaccountable judiciary to force laws down our throats.

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
If it never changed, we wouldn't have abolished slavery or given women the right to vote or the most important one of all, especially now...
...limiting Presidents to two terms. (whew)
Thats a good point, but when we created the constitution and what have yous, we made the min age for president 35. Well at that time, life expectancy was around 44-45. A lot of that was because of infant mortality, so if you take that out of the equation, and take the life expectancy from all those who lived to be 18, it becomes about 47.

If you take that same ratio to todays mid-70's life expectancy you should change it so that you have to be about 55 or 60 to me president, don't you agree?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim
Amending the Constitution would be the proper method. Using SC justices to rewrite the Constitution is the left-wing method of using the unaccountable judiciary to force laws down our throats.

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It's a good thing their terms are set for life, and one pres can't appoint them all. Our constitution is the greatest ever written...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FX41
Thats a good point, but when we created the constitution and what have yous, we made the min age for president 35. Well at that time, life expectancy was around 44-45. A lot of that was because of infant mortality, so if you take that out of the equation, and take the life expectancy from all those who lived to be 18, it becomes about 47.

If you take that same ratio to todays mid-70's life expectancy you should change it so that you have to be about 55 or 60 to me president, don't you agree?
First off, I'm just guessing here on how they came up with age 35.
The bible says lifespan is "three score and ten".
That is 70 years.
When you're under 35, you are in the first half of life.
On your 35th birthday, you have progressed to second half or as it states in Article Two, Section I "...the downhill slide..."
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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It's a good thing their terms are set for life, and one pres can't appoint them all. Our constitution is the greatest ever written...
Now if only we'd follow it....

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim
Using SC justices to rewrite the Constitution is the left-wing method of using the unaccountable judiciary to force laws down our throats.
Look at what liberal activist judges are doing here in Massachusetts. Gay marriage was made legal withough the will of the people being heard. The liberal legislature has taken the ball and is running with it. Now out of state gay couples can marry in Massachusetts even if thier home state doesn't allow it. The people in this state have very little accurate representation. Come election time it's the few with lots of money who actually have a voice that is heard.

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Crooner Harry Connick Jr. and his 9-year-old daughter led the serenade of "Happy Birthday" to Obama at a reception of 850 people. Revelers sipped wine and beer in front of stunning, 33d-floor vistas of Boston Harbor. About 250 people paid $15,000 each - $28,500 for a couple - to dine with him afterward.
I got to hear Glenn Beck talk about the Constitution, and how some say that it's a living document. It's the progressives that believe that it's a living document. They say that it's evolving. Unlike some on the right, I believe in the theory of evolution as a possible explaination for our exsistance. I don't however believe that the Constitution is "evolving". I believe that it was a foundation for our county to be built apon. When you build on a foundation it is the foundation that is the most important part. You don't change the foundation, you only build on it.
 

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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2 Sides to every story, we have a family friend who lived in Canada and travels to Houston for medical care. He spends the entire year, but the 4 summer months, here in Houston getting treated. He says the Canadian healthcare system is a huge joke, once you know what proper treatment & doctors are like you would never trust your life to those Hospitals in Canada. His condition was getting worse, after coming here to Houston for the past 3 years he has made huge progress.
It's not our doctors, in fact all our doctors moved to the states, so they must meet the qualifications over there.
Our problem is lack of doctors and the amount of time it takes theo receive care.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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It's not our doctors, in fact all our doctors moved to the states, so they must meet the qualifications over there.
Our problem is lack of doctors and the amount of time it takes theo receive care.
um sorry but

no doctors + long waiting times = crappy healthcare system
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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um sorry but

no doctors + long waiting times = crappy healthcare system
I retract my last statement. There was a time a number of years ago when many Canadian doctors decided to jump ship and head across the border to suck off 150 insurance companies in the states rather than just one insurer here, but today, finding a doctor is not difficult.
If you live in a rural area, then okay, you may have a problem finding a doctor, but the same can be said about rural areas in the US.

There are a lot of myths about the Canadian health care system, and a lot of ignorance that goes along with it. There are pros and cons to both sides, but Canada is no third world country like some may be brainwashed into believing.
 
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