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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Ah, the religion debate

Ok, so we can cut out the "you shoved the bible down my throat", I thought I'd start one off that I'm sure plenty will have a problem with, but it's not the typical door-knocking, let me dunk you post. I'll post some stuff and youcan follow suit if you have something worth saying.

Believ it or not, Muslims believe in Jesus. They believe in the Bible(before the council of Nicea got ahold of it). Mary was a virgin. JC was taken up into heaven and is coming back. They believe in one god, just in Islam, his name is Allah. Unlike some religions that say "accept this person and you're saved" then you have no other obligations, Islam says, "Accept that there is only one God" But one is also encouraged to live a life of mercy, honesty and politeness. There are around 1 Billion Muslims in the world that follow a book that has NOT changed since it was written. It grows at 2.9% a year which is faster than the earth's population at 2.3% per year.
The Qur’an says:
“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” [Al-Qur’an 6:151]
"Not one of you is a believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself." Fourth Hadith of an-Nawawi 13

I think that's enought to start us out.
 

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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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It also states, " those who are not converted to Islam, are to be killed."
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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It also states, " those who are not converted to Islam, are to be killed."
Sweet man, more info. Now tell me where "it" says that.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/koran.html There are many more quotes out there if you google it.

It also says that a Muslim is not to take Jews or Christians as friends. Interesting. I'm outta here.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitched_Gibson
Ok, so we can cut out the "you shoved the bible down my throat", I thought I'd start one off that I'm sure plenty will have a problem with, but it's not the typical door-knocking, let me dunk you post. I'll post some stuff and youcan follow suit if you have something worth saying.

Believ it or not, Muslims believe in Jesus. They believe in the Bible(before the council of Nicea got ahold of it). Mary was a virgin. JC was taken up into heaven and is coming back. They believe in one god, just in Islam, his name is Allah. Unlike some religions that say "accept this person and you're saved" then you have no other obligations, Islam says, "Accept that there is only one God" But one is also encouraged to live a life of mercy, honesty and politeness. There are around 1 Billion Muslims in the world that follow a book that has NOT changed since it was written. It grows at 2.9% a year which is faster than the earth's population at 2.3% per year.
The Qur’an says:
“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” [Al-Qur’an 6:151]
"Not one of you is a believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself." Fourth Hadith of an-Nawawi 13

I think that's enought to start us out.
I knew it! You had an agenda all along. Islam did not say there was one god from day one. It was not until after Mohammed came along and did away with all the other gods. To make it apear more Christian and monotheistic.

And why are they killing Gods chosen? The Jews?

I knew you were twisted, cant wait to hear your demonic words.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/koran.html There are many more quotes out there if you google it.

It also says that a Muslim is not to take Jews or Christians as friends. Interesting. I'm outta here.
Frank, of course you can find a Christian website to say something bad about Muslims. Try getting it from a Muslim himself
Look Here, and here, and here, and here, and here

Let me know what you think when you've glanced at at least one of these.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitched_Gibson
Frank, of course you can find a Christian website to say something bad about Muslims. Try getting it from a Muslim himself
Look Here, and here, and here, and here, and here

Let me know what you think when you've glanced at at least one of these.
Really, kids being mean to other kids? Whodathunkit? I glanced, and laughed after reading the first paragraph.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
I knew it! You had an agenda all along. Islam did not say there was one god from day one. It was not until after Mohammed came along and did away with all the other gods. To make it apear more Christian and monotheistic.

And why are they killing Gods chosen? The Jews?

I knew you were twisted, cant wait to hear your demonic words.
You make this so easy. What is my agenda? There was no Islam before Muhammed, and you never provide reference to anything so I'm not sure what your talking about. If you want to see where your beloved Christianity got it's roots, read up on the council of Nicea.

As far as why they kill Jews, I'm not sure. Maybe they got ahold of Mein Kampf.

Twisted and Demonic? Please elaborate.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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It must have really burnt your Muslim butt when I posted:

1John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either: he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Christians and Muslims...Only one of them TRUELLY accepts Christ.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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ANOTHER one of these threads?!?


KILL IT! KILL IT!

 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
Really, kids being mean to other kids? Whodathunkit? I glanced, and laughed after reading the first paragraph.
Haha, what?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitched_Gibson
You make this so easy. What is my agenda? There was no Islam before Muhammed, and you never provide reference to anything so I'm not sure what your talking about. If you want to see where your beloved Christianity got it's roots, read up on the council of Nicea.

As far as why they kill Jews, I'm not sure. Maybe they got ahold of Mein Kampf.

Twisted and Demonic? Please elaborate.
I gotta give it to ya, your one EVIL dude.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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It must have really burnt your Muslim butt when I posted:

1John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either: he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Christians and Muslims...Only one of them TRUELLY accepts Christ.
You crack me up. No sir, I'm not Muslim. If I were, you'd see a little (pbuh) after Muhammed. So, my butts fine. BTW, who's bashing who now? I hope none of your almost Christian friends don't see the way you treat people, espaecially making an *** out of yourself and assuming I'm Muslim.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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ANOTHER one of these threads?!?


KILL IT! KILL IT!

You too? Man that would be effective if I were Muslim.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinesintx
I knew it! You had an agenda all along. Islam did not say there was one god from day one. It was not until after Mohammed came along and did away with all the other gods. To make it apear more Christian and monotheistic.

And why are they killing Gods chosen? The Jews?

I knew you were twisted, cant wait to hear your demonic words.
Look at the pot calling the kettle black. If I were Muslim, why would this be an agenda and Frodo's post be a duty? I'm intrigued at how you think I'm Muslim. I've given more Christian scriture and doctrine than anyhting else, yet you never thought I was a Christian. I'm not even promoting Islam here. I just don't like inside the box/Book thinking like you have. That's why you have such a hard time conveying any message to someone. you have no idea what you are up against. All you know is what you have. Don't know or even care what anyone else has. Just close off from even learning.
 
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