Good thought. It's late for me, so I'll think about htis one later.

 

I'm not sure about your post. There were things that turned me from a particular church/congregation, but not from God. I'm not sure if that's what you are thinking. But when I prayed to God for knowledge, I got a different answer, than Praying to Jesus to reveal the bible to me. I'm not sure how to explain that any better right now, but maybe you understand. If I sit and meditate about one thing and try to draw answers from say just the bible, I'll get them.

I'm also not sure about Daniel, but Isaiah is basically talking about hypocrites. There lips worship me, but their hearts are far from me. That's pretty far from true in my case. If I misinterpereted your post please try again.

 

Good call sir. The only thing I can come up with now is I was talking to our chaplain the other day and made a comment about close-minded people. He told be how there are certain times to be so. The wife, which I wholly agree on was one of those times. How to seperate the two might take me some time to think about. Might not even come up with a valid way to come up with the two. Actually, in marriage, you become one. There is no "the other person". Leaving or cheating would affect more than me, so I THINK that might seperate them to some extent. But your comment about don't miss the good stuff, while taken to heart, is the very same reason I search. And not in the "I have to fill a void" type searching, but the search and finding more knowledge is fulfilling.

 

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Not to split hairs, or to bag on ya. I think you of all know that I would not do that now...

But I had a thought about the word "Knowledge". Not for you, but for me. The word "knowledge" implies that one "KNOWS" something. That they are 100% positive about something, and there is no room for error in their thinking. I wanted knowledge, so that I could be prideful and boa****l. I wanted others to be impressed with all that I knew...

Hitched pointed out in scripture where I was wrong. The Holy Spirit gave me "understanding" as to what I thought I "knew". Once I "understood", my prideful world was shattered. "Understanding" in my OPINION seems to mean that one was taught, or shown. Understanding something is more humble?

I feel that I KNOW what Christ did for us. I can be bold about that. Not out of pride, but out of certainty. I want to "understand" what the Word of God is, and how He wants me to carry myself. Maybe, I must "understand" before I can "know".

Again, this was for me. I was thinking aloud.

 

Depending on whether we want to get technical or not, which I usually do, Knowledge can be one of two things.
knowl·edge [nol-ij]–noun
1. acquaintance with facts, truths, or principles, as from study or investigation; general erudition: knowledge of many things.
2. familiarity or conversance, as with a particular subject or branch of learning: A knowledge of accounting was necessary for the job.
3. acquaintance or familiarity gained by sight, experience, or report: a knowledge of human nature.
In my use of the word, knowledge is just this: a familiarity. I KNOW that
2+2=4. I am familiar with carpentry. I think it's fine to be certain on some things. Finite things. On the othe hand, one would be obtuse to think, I know all there is to know of carpentry, and shut out the opportunity to grow. When it comes to ideas and collections of thought and things such as the matter of salvation, There is no way to KNOW. And before anyone starts in on me, I understand faith.

 

What i'm trying to say is the ideas of others and their lack of faith can rob you of yours. When you search for faith you are looking for a destination.
When you live with faith it is a great journey


no need to ignore that is a simple truth

 

I'm not sure whether to say thank you or ignore you, so I'll just say, "ok"

 

I never said it was Scripture.

I also did not tell Hitched they were words he had to live by. That was his own inference which led to his circular reasoning. Hitler has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

 

This thread brought back a funny memory I had not too long ago.

Whenever I work in the UAE, I have a friend there who tries very hard to convert me to Islam. He always says "Habibi, you would make such a good Muslim, cmon and join the club"

He's a great guy, but when it comes to faith and beliefs, he's no different than some of you hardcore BAC's.
You know, the glassy eyed bi-polar look you guys get when you're trying to make a sale,
Remember Fred Flinstone when the Alien Freds came down to Bedrock?
They were very robotic as they chanted "YABBA DABBA DOO"

Anyway, so last time I was there, my buddy visits the local book store and buy a few hundred bucks worth of books on Islam.
He hands me the bag at the airport and says "I bought you a gift".

One of the titles was called:
"he Duties and Obligations of Muslim Women"

Now my wife & I have a very warped and offside sense of humor. (I blame Southpark)

So when I got home, I pulled the book out of the bag and handed it to her.

I said "It's time to learn your duties and responsibilities biatch"

Anyway, you had to be there, it was a classic Cartman moment.

 

Cartman "Respect my Authorita'."

 

Interesting read. Pretty sure I said "Again, this was for me. I was thinking aloud." Not trying to point fingers with the knowledge thing, just a problem that I had...

 

Mind if I use that sometime?

Hope not because I'm going to.....

 

I guess no one wants to talk about the ark? I am not even sure if the ark story I know is the same one as in the bible.

 

Guess I need to go back, and edit,,,