This is why Honda and Toyota will continue to pull ahead. Unions will be the death of the big three. Its sad.

 

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8 years as a union worker..... (two employers, same union) last 7 years non union employee.
I might be slightly educated on both sides of the fence......
I'd much rather be an employee than a worker..... positives far out weigh the negatives.

I'll never work another union job again......

Enough said.....

 

Yeah, just like it'll be the death of Lockheed Martin, the world's biggest and best military contractor.

 

I belong to a teachers' union. We came within about 15 minutes of striking about four years ago. We are not uneducated people--about 85% of my collegues, as well as myself, have our M.Ed.'s. I admit that it is different in education here in Ohio---it is a not-for-profit situation: school districts only have so much tax revenue with which to work, so there can be a minimal salary increase.

I does however, through CBA's, give us procedural job protection; if a teacher is poor they can still be removed. However, it does guarantee us as a group of professional educators that we will all be treated procedulary the same---no one can get special treatment---both positively and negatively.

Tim C.

 

More money for less work? You have never been a teacher--who else goes home at night and grades papers---doing work away from my hours in the classroom. Don't give me the crap about working only part of the year. During the summer I have to take classes to keep my license---and I work as well---this helps to make up for what I am not making---as opposed to others inthe business world with the same two types of degrees that I have (BA and Master's).

I dare you to come into my classroom and teach---but first you had better have a darn good (shall I say excellent?) grasp at the subject you will teach, plan lessons that incorporate and build upon the subjects, evaluate not only the students, but the lesson and the techniques used (as well as the educator himself), and grade papers in your spare time.

In fact, I triple-dog dare you!

 

Must be a third grade teacher.....

I work in education too, non union, not an educator, do not have a relative degree, Do make more money, (probably work more hours though, I logged 76 hours last week) but was paid for all of it plus my meals... I still have summers off, all to myself to do what I want, don't have to do continued ed, plus additionally I also get December and January off......

Your union must be great!!!!!!

 

Anyone? I don't care whether you're a teacher, an auto assembler, or a fighter jet assembler. Answer me this.

ETA - I can understand teacher's unions, since I was a student at one time and you couldn't pay me enough to put up with a roomful of unruly kids.

 

Nope English IV, English IV AP, and Contemporary Cinema, as well as Dept. Chair (for which I get paid nothing.)

 

http://www.union-organizing.com/edit.html

 

I do not know if I would be doing the same job; I do know, however, that belonging to my union has allowed me, as well as others like me, to teach in safer and less hazardous conditions as well as focusing more on what really helps students achieve---individual student contact---smaller class sizes, etc.

You see, it is not always about the teachers' salaries; it may be about the environment of the classroom---which leads to a better "product"---a highly educated young adult.

Tim C.

 

No becasue they hate thier company because it's always trying to squeeze every red cent from them......With out the union, "the man" probably wouldn't even pay them...... he;d use thier pay checks to roll a fat doobie and sit and smoke it while drinking whine and watching them sweat and labor away......



Seriously, union or not, if my company was that bad, if they didnt take care of me, I'd leave.... F' that. I'm employed, not married......

 

It must be painful for you to read most of my post then....

I always stunk at English......

 

Give it time.

How are unions helping workers in a 2007 modern work world? (Since this is a auto forum lets stick with auto unions.)

 

Naah, my typin' ain't very good neither... I only use spell check when it counts---on my tests, quizes, and stuff like dat...

Tim C.