Virginia Tech Shootings
Originally Posted by AAlmeter
Yes, they had an escaped con doing the same thing there earlier.
Unfortunately, every administrator, officer, janitor, etc will get blamed for not doing the right thing....hindsight being 20/20 and all.
Best we can do is pray for the families and hope that the subpar members of our voting populace and government will finally realise that the only people effected by laws are those who obey them.
230 grains of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Unfortunately, every administrator, officer, janitor, etc will get blamed for not doing the right thing....hindsight being 20/20 and all.
Best we can do is pray for the families and hope that the subpar members of our voting populace and government will finally realise that the only people effected by laws are those who obey them.
230 grains of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Too bad that some self rightous libbys will just use the tragic deaths of these people to further thier idiodic causes.
Everyplcae I went to day had TV's on CNN watching it..... What is really messed up, they said that the shootings started in a dorm at 07:00, they continued with classes as normal, chose not to go into lock down, then the shooter came back at 09:00 and got some more!
Someone should lose thier job. Imus lost his for a bad decision of words that ultimatly didnt hurt anyone. This bad decsion cost peoples lives.......
Someone should lose thier job. Imus lost his for a bad decision of words that ultimatly didnt hurt anyone. This bad decsion cost peoples lives.......
I am a student at VA Tech and it is really tragic what happened today. I was on my way to campus when the second set of shootings happened and the bus that I was on just stopped in route and let everyone off. It is really upsetting that they didn't close campus or cancel classes after the first shooting. The buses continued to run, bringing more students on campus when there was a gunman on the loose. My prayers go out to all of those families that have to deal with this loss of their child.
Heads will role, cause the School should have been in Lockdown till they know that the threat has either been eliminated, or in custody, we drill all the time for this type of stuff, at work, they screwed up!!! The E-mail notification of the first shooting came 2-hours later when the second one had already started,.......wow, talk about dropping the ball! Nowadays, since the Columbine Shooting, no more waiting around for SWAT teams to arrive, once a known threat has been established, you act on it, & terminate it or subdue it, I prefer the 1st approach! Which means entering school ASAP!
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
From January 31, 2006
31stGun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito
381-1675
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.
Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."
The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.
Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.
In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
From January 31, 2006
31stGun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito
381-1675
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.
Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."
The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.
Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.
In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
Originally Posted by lees99f150
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
From January 31, 2006
31stGun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito
381-1675
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.
Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."
The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.
Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.
In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
From January 31, 2006
31stGun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito
381-1675
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.
Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."
The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.
Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.
In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
It's not about Gun Legislation or Religion People!
Why are people bringing in Gun Legislation/Religion into this incident, it's not about either one.......33 People Died at the hands of a *&^%$ hole!!! The story is about this brutal Murder of innocent people at the hands of a Psycho, keep your Political Agenda's to yourself, or at the Voting Poles!!!
Now before you guys go crazy on the police...
It was believed the initial shootings were motivated from a domestic situation. The police did not suspect the shooter would return and cause the massacre he did, otherwise I am sure there would have been a lock down.
Think of the school as a tiny town, which it pretty much is. Everytime there is a shooting in the city or town where you live, do they lock the whole place down? No, they dont. I am not saying what was done by the police was right or wrong, just offering an explanation on why they did not lock down campus.
I am part of the local police departments Special Response Team where I work, and we train for this thing every month. But I honestly couldnt imagine walking into a war zone like this.
Let us not only pray for those that were lost, but for the ones that survived and witnesses this horrible scene.
It was believed the initial shootings were motivated from a domestic situation. The police did not suspect the shooter would return and cause the massacre he did, otherwise I am sure there would have been a lock down.
Think of the school as a tiny town, which it pretty much is. Everytime there is a shooting in the city or town where you live, do they lock the whole place down? No, they dont. I am not saying what was done by the police was right or wrong, just offering an explanation on why they did not lock down campus.
I am part of the local police departments Special Response Team where I work, and we train for this thing every month. But I honestly couldnt imagine walking into a war zone like this.
Let us not only pray for those that were lost, but for the ones that survived and witnesses this horrible scene.
I agree with what you say, however whether it's a small High School, or a Big University Campus, lockdown procedures must be followed & are in place so that what happened today, doesn't happen!
Originally Posted by pgh_medic
Now before you guys go crazy on the police...
It was believed the initial shootings were motivated from a domestic situation. The police did not suspect the shooter would return and cause the massacre he did, otherwise I am sure there would have been a lock down.
Think of the school as a tiny town, which it pretty much is. Everytime there is a shooting in the city or town where you live, do they lock the whole place down? No, they dont. I am not saying what was done by the police was right or wrong, just offering an explanation on why they did not lock down campus.
I am part of the local police departments Special Response Team where I work, and we train for this thing every month. But I honestly couldnt imagine walking into a war zone like this.
Let us not only pray for those that were lost, but for the ones that survived and witnesses this horrible scene.
It was believed the initial shootings were motivated from a domestic situation. The police did not suspect the shooter would return and cause the massacre he did, otherwise I am sure there would have been a lock down.
Think of the school as a tiny town, which it pretty much is. Everytime there is a shooting in the city or town where you live, do they lock the whole place down? No, they dont. I am not saying what was done by the police was right or wrong, just offering an explanation on why they did not lock down campus.
I am part of the local police departments Special Response Team where I work, and we train for this thing every month. But I honestly couldnt imagine walking into a war zone like this.
Let us not only pray for those that were lost, but for the ones that survived and witnesses this horrible scene.


